So Biden has the biggest steel balls ever?
Dark Brandon continues his domination over Putin!
I think there is a .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance we sent in ground or tactically struck something
The nuclear risk isn’t worth it dude
This is fine and I disagree.
But saying “their special forces didn’t exist before 2015” is not just “an opinion.” It is wrong.
Saying Ukrainian special forces is not capable is wrong, or it at least clashes with the opinions of some of the finest special forces operators and trainers in the world.
Yes, I will correct you when you’re wrong.
And when you reach conclusions based on incorrect assumptions, you might want to re-evaluate those original conclusions. But that’s up to you.
Pivoting the conversation from your incorrect assumptions about the capabilities of Ukrainian special operations forces, let’s talk about whether what we’ve seen so far is likely to be them or the US.
It may be noteworthy that these operations haven’t been executed perfectly.
Bridge Bomb
The bomb blew two spans of the westbound road bridge, but the eastbound bridge didn’t fall and can still support light vehicles. Similar to the rail line, where the fuel fire melted the steel and wheels and screwed up one track, but another track is intact and still serviceable. These facts suggest to me that the explosions were not professional charges set in place during a secret mission.
Nord Stream Pipes
While the pipes aren’t excessively deep, getting to them isn’t too difficult. This sabotage was most definitely special forces of some type. However I should stress that the identity of the culprit is still unknown. I’d place a greater than 50% chance that this was done by Russia itself, but it could have been Ukraine or even a coalition of the West.
Probably the most suspicious aspect of these bombings is that one of the NS2 pipes was left intact and ready to deliver gas. It seems an odd oversight unless this was a false flag by Russia, but we may be able to come up with other theories.
Dugin Assassination
There was an attempt on Alexander Dugin that ended up killing his daughter. This was another bomb.
The US has publicly concluded it was Ukrainian SBU, and they have publicly condemned it and reproved Ukraine from doing that again. I would suggest that this schism is evidence that Ukraine is conducting at least some covert operations without US knowledge, and that they have at least some capability.
That’s cool!! There doesn’t have to be a winner here.
You’re the only guy I respect on that side. Don’t ruin this for me. Lol
And if you are, it’s clear you’ll never admit it.
Of course he ignores 305 overall point as he heads for the door
Complete Nancy. He’s been supporting Russia
This whole time (like Bikki) but has gone largely quiet after the huge Ukrainian gains.
What’s even crazier is that no one really knows why they’ve supported Russia - whom @bikki228 calls the greatest land army in Europe.
Not shocking he’s not responded to this.
Here come the women at the after party squalking away as usual.
Here comes Karen acting like she’s not wrong because she’s a pansy and can’t admit it.
You have a lot of nerve calling anyone a Karen, Karen. 
It’s clear you’ve run out of positions to take.
I’ve had 2 positions in this “war” and they’ve never changed.
The other position you’ve taken over and over is that no one cares about this war. This is factually inaccurate.
Yes. There are special forces teams made up of foreign fighters. This is public knowledge and there has been plenty of footage released of them.
GSC’s assertion, that the Americans have teams on the ground, is something else. And I don’t even fully dispute that fact because it is more or less unknowable at this point. But when all his supporting evidence is flat-out wrong, I will call that out.
And the idea that you need some elite team of special forces with 10+ years of training as well as significant real-war experience to execute a truck bomb is… something else too.
I think he is trying to move the goal posts tho and claim Americans generally, not US Military led ground troops. You have to watch his sleigh of hand constantly, filthy liar and all. I mean, never say never cause I’d find myself eating my words and have to apologize. Which I’d happily do if I were wrong. The chance that US led military troops are on the ground in Ukraine are about as close to negative 1 as it can get. Unless we are exploiting some weakness and know that Putin wouldn’t over react, I just don’t see the possibility. It isn’t worth WWIII.
Seriously?
As I keep saying- stop believing the narratives that are put out. It wasn’t a truck bombing.
A more plausible explanation, he said, is a massive explosion below the bridge - probably delivered using some kind of clandestine maritime drone.
“Bridges are generally designed to resist downwards loads on the deck and a certain amount of side loading from the wind,” he said. “They are not generally engineered to resist upward loads. I think this fact was exploited in the Ukrainian attack.”
Is this person correct? I don’t know but he does have the footage that he’s using to make his claim.
Nord Stream Attack:
Pressure drops were reported at both the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines running underneath the Baltic Sea on September 26. Three separate leaks were recorded off the coasts of Denmark and Sweden, a few dozen kilometers apart. Both lines of the Nord Stream 1 pipeline were impacted, along with one line of Nord Stream 2. Reports from seismologists based in Denmark and Sweden suggest that sizeable explosions on the order of 100 kilograms of TNT occurred in both incidents.
https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/88062
Given the reports of explosions and the statistical unlikelihood of three accidents occurring on the same day, sabotage seems certain. The charges could have been delivered in several ways: as depth charges dropped from a surface ship or even from a plane, or as explosives with a delayed charge installed by divers or delivered by a submarine, or even from inside the pipeline, the same way that a pipeline inspection gauge (a “pig”) goes through Nord Stream 1 every year to inspect it and remove debris and sludge.
The scale of the operation—the multiple sites and amount of explosives involved—suggests the involvement of a state. Despite initial speculation that the attack could have been the work of non-state actors, that seems highly unlikely. Given reported drone sightings near oil and gas platforms in the North Sea in recent months, European and U.S. officials and energy companies have every reason to be worried about what Moscow is up to. Certainly, there will be very close inspection of global flight tracking services and MarineTraffic data by both professionals and amateurs looking for possible culprits. The Baltic Sea is a busy place, of course, but it can be assumed that governments, military units, and companies are already pooling their information.
Some commentators have already leaped to self-serving conclusions that simply raise eyebrows. Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova, for example, claimed that the attacks occurred in “countries that are completed controlled by the U.S. intelligence services.” Fox News television personality Tucker Carlson also implied a U.S. role in the explosions. “If you are Vladimir Putin, you would have to be a suicidal moron to blow up your own energy pipeline,” Carlson argued. “That’s the one thing you would never do.”
We’re talking about deep “subsea” infrastructure.
Yea- it was the Ukrainians. Come on man. Give me a break.
Except underwater drones have already been given to Ukraine in for mines…
In August…
Let’s assume the mine hunters don’t possess a distance threat or can’t be used to detonate an explosive. What’s the possibility they have been given other tech, you know since we are already supplying lots of tech.
I’m fairly certain no one in this thread is hung up on car bombs btw. Not sure why you are digging in on that point.
I want everyone to see the flip flop here.
I’m being asked to constantly produce concrete evidence for my claims and now Djrion just wants to make shit up and pass it though. Where’s your standard buddy. Prove they had the drones designed for this mission.
305 has brought it up multiple times as the official narrative because it Putin said it.
I’m simply answering. Go talk to your boy. I’m not hung up on anything.
You’re hung up on election fraud that didn’t happen