8 The Battle of Kharkiv

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Is that the same Larry Johnson who wrote that in July 2001, two months before the 9/11 attack, a NY Time op ed titled “The Declining Terrorism Threat”? The same guy who lied about having Michelle Obama talking about “whitey” on tape, turning out to be a flat out hoax? What about the John Kerry “raped some poor Vietnamese woman” hoax where he literally altered audio from a Dick Cavett show in 1971? Or, when he acted as a source for Andrew Napolitano on a fake story about how the British wiretapped Trump?
Kind of goes along with his current claims…most significantly that he portrays, favorably, Putin as a white nationalist hero along with Trump.

You two seem very similar…traitors to your own country, white nationalists, pathological liars.

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Wow. Now I understand why bikki likes this guy.

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Just glad I don’t have to hate the sharks runnin’ rebels now

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Not only does GSC have no response to my summary of the war, but I wanted to show an example of how GSC uses logic.

He presents examples of “evidence” like the above statement. NO RESPONSE FROM RUSSIA appears to strengthen his argument that there are NATO boots on the front line. Why? Who knows, it’s GSC logic, but bear with me here.

It turns out, there was a MIGHTY response from Russia. 4 days straight of unprecedented missile attacks, at one point knocking out 30% of Ukraine’s electrical infrastructure. (Don’t worry, bikki, it’s all fixed by now.)

So here’s my question to GSC: When the “supporting evidence” he uses flips on its head, does GSC adjust his theory? Of course not. He will stubbornly discount that and invent new evidence, all while failing to respond to my recounting of events.

Remember people, by GSC’s own admission, he hasn’t been paying attention to this war. He doesn’t care about it. It’s not even a war, right? Even though Putin mobilized his country.

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Two fronts worth giving updates on.

Bakhmut

The first is Bakhmut, a city that Wagner group has been pounding away at for 3 months. This is the one place on the whole front Russia has been making gains, though they have been laugably slow. the thing is, nobody can figure out just why Russia is attacking here.

3 months ago the maneuvering made sense. Russia had a more favorable front line and Bakhmut could centrally support their new conquests. But after losing so much territory, Bakhmut has lost all its strategic importance. Yet Wagner is stubbornly pressing it, like a robot following its last orders even though its master are long dead. It’s a mystery.

Kherson

This is the biggie. We know Ukraine has been grinding toward Kherson for 3 months as well. Their offensive starting with HIMARS strikes to soften the enemy forces, but they have no doubt been attempting pushes for 2 months. Ukraine has gained a little ground here and there, until a big breakthrough last week where they snagged a north quadrant of land along the river. The question has always been how long can Russian forces last with limited resupply.

Well, by all accounts Russia is now setting conditions to evacuate the city. I could very well be wrong, but they have consolidated their forces, thinned them out, and have even moved some off the line. Lots of things could be happening, but the Kherson front, from a Russian standpoint, seems doomed.

FINALLY
Russia has increased their calls for peace. They say they want to negotiate, adding they mean to “achieve their ends.” They are asking/begging Germany to turn on the surviving portion of Nord Stream 2. They have even recently said they would be willing to withdraw from Kherson. They even just today announce that their mobilization will be ending in 2 weeks.

This is a major show of weakness by the Russian Federation. They still talk a hard game, but reading between the lines, Russia is suing for a ceasefire.

I believe the heavy missile strikes of the last week are a last gasp of Russia showing its strength to urge a call for peace.

Now, it’s entirely possible they want to wait 6 months to properly train the mobilized troops before coming at Ukraine again. I’m not insinuating that Russia is harmless or defeated or anything like that. But despite all the mud on the ground, I have to think Kherson will be liberated within a month.

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Lol- at the time I wrote what I wrote there was no strong response. The missiles came after my post.

And I haven’t been following it closely because it’s not extremely important to my life. I just find it highly suspect that Ukrainians could pull these operations off solo.

You’re entitled to your opinion, I mine. Not sure what you think you’ve proven? I stayed early in this discussion that my theory is most likely not able to be confined until much later because it would be too secret/clandestine due to Article V implications.

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Ignorant mf’er

Don’t comment then, if you are not paying attention. Well documented they have sent troops out of Ukraine to be trained elsewhere.

You can have an opinion that you made up because this war isn’t important and you made up your fucking stupid response. Just understand your ignorant response with no context is wrong

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Oh god shut up you fucking oompa loompah. No one asked you shit.

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How is this a comeback? I know the missiles came after. My question is, since the missiles disproved one part of your theory, do you re-evalutate the rest of it? Do you care when your suppositions and evidence don’t bear out? Or do you ignore the misses and focus on being right about everything else without proof?

And DJ’s exactly right. Ukrainian troops have been training for 6 months for this exact thing. All they’re doing is sending mechanized brigades with artillery support, using Western intelligence and weapons, against an undersized and undertrained army. There’s no secret sauce here except for hard work, manpower, and firepower.

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That is his EXACT MO

It is why he lies constantly. He doesn’t care about any truth. He cares about being right all the while being WRONG all the time

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Sure. Absolutely I do. I posted 3 days after the attack on the last Russian asset (I think it was the Crimean Bridge). 6 days is a long time to wait to respond to a thing like this, wouldn’t you agree?

Does that mean I think US Commandos aren’t operating? No. But certainly it makes me look a bit differently at the situation. But I think everyone needs to admit this “war” (quotes just for you) is fucking weird.

Please don’t be dramatic like the 3 fools I place you highly above. I always answer when I’m wrong or when new info comes.

6 months is not a lot of training. Sorry. It’s just not. Maybe for simple conventional operations. Not for some of the shit we’ve seen.

And I don’t know where you’re getting your info from about the defense of the Bridge but Russia is saying the exact opposite of you.

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There might be something to talk about if those numbers weren’t completely made up.

The Kerch bridge was struck on Saturday. I posted about it within hours. You posted about it THE NEXT MORNING. Then Russia responded with a huge series of missile strikes on MONDAY.

So there is no fictional world where Russia waited 6 days to respond.

So let me ask you again, now that your supporting evidence has been disproven AGAIN, would you like to re-evaluate your theory? Or will you stubbornly stick to it?

Spoken like someone completely unfamiliar with the concept.

Russia is placing mobilized troops on the front line with less than 1 week of training.

The US sent troops into theater in WWII with 7 to 8 weeks of training.

Would you mind showing me supportive evidence for your claim that 6 months is not a lot of training time for troops mobilized for war? Because, like your other “facts,” it sounds completely made up.

I don’t believe I commented on the defense of the bridge. Russia claims it was a truck bomb that came out of Russia. Are you disputing that? To be honest, that claim could be pure propaganda.

Keep in mind Russia claimed the trains would be running the next day. Today they said it wouldn’t be repaired until June 2023. Cars are passing over the remaining road span, but there are no trucks allowed. Those are lined 900 deep, waiting 3 to 4 days for a FERRY. So watch out when it comes to putting stock in what Russia claims.

For the record, I have no idea what took down the bridge. The truck bomb is a possibility.

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It’s a shame Pinellas is not here to give Warden a tutorial on the banking system and how it is shaped globally.

305 believes the propaganda supplied by MSM which has Ukraine winning the war about to plant their flag over the Kremlin.

What is arrant stupidity has been our policy toward Russia We’re no longer dealing with the Soviet Union. The Russian Federation is predominately a Christian nation with a European culture. It should naturally be our ally both culturally and economically. Liberals would have you believe that it is treasonous to want peace in Europe. This war would NEVER have happened were Trump our president. It is Joe Biden who stands against bringing this conflict to the peace table knowing full well that the terms will be dictated by Russia. In the meantime, Europe is falling to hell apart and is experiencing massive anti-American demonstrations against the Ukraine War.

Then there is the myth of the Russian army being in a state of discord and Russian weaponry being technologically inferior to ours It can be observed that missiles fired by Ukraine against Russia have been successfully intercepted by the Russian so-called inferior defensive shields Presently, the U.S. has no weapons against some Russian missiles giving Russia an extreme advantage both technologically and geographically were the US insanely to commit to war with Russia. Do Americans and their NATO allies really want to fight for Ukraine, one of the most corrupt nations on earth? Of course not.

Doug MacGregor best understands what is going on, and his description of same is markedly different than what we are being subjected to my MSM. MacGregor explains what is likely to transpire as winter descends on Europe with the change in Russian strategy from a SPO to a full-fledged destruction of the Kievan regime and its army that is perceived a threat to destroy the Russian Motherland. Those of you who are brainwashed, listen with an open mind to MacGregor who is interviewed in the first twenty minutes of this Rumble video.

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Even if I got my days wrong apparently the missile strikes weren’t retaliation for the bridge strike. Lol

I think I was clear that I don’t see this or the Noord Pipeline attacks as “conventional”missions. That’s where I think the hang ups are.

Spec Ops go through 12 months basic training. And then even more specialized trainings depending on what their mission types are or where they may deploy.

Well then we’re having 2 different convos buddy because I’m talking about the bridge bombing and the pipeline attacks. Those were special operations. That’s my opinion.

You can read up all you want on the war and believe you’re getting the right info. Most likely you aren’t. We’re in the greatest age of disinfo. But for some reason you believe your General Patton or some shit.

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I don’t watch the MSM media. That’s only for old people like you.

Meanwhile, you keep reposting a tired old colonel, ignoring what I posted from a general.

Then bikki, a self-proclaimed atheist, talks about Christian ties to Russia, wholly ignoring that our best allies are democracies.

Then he blames liberals when supoort for Ukraine is overwhelmingly bipartisan.

Does bikki have anything to say that isn’t a breathy proclamation of the future? How about current happenings? Actual events and situations? Bueller?

  1. I thought the army was already destroyed?

  2. Russia tried to destroy the regime in Kyiv on Day 1, so nothing new there.

It’s a sorry sight to see a brainwashed old man becoming emfeebled by hate and propaganda. You used to be better than this, bikki.

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Keep loling as you scramble for some spin. From your source:

In an address on October 10, Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed that Moscow’s dramatic air war escalation was a direct response to the suspected Ukrainian attack on the Crimean Bridge.

Putin saying it is a response is a de facto response. Do you disagree?

Certainly not. We don’t know who blew up the NS pipes, but it was special ops for sure. Ukraine does have special forces, btw, so the existence of special ops doesn’t signify anything.

These guys have been training for YEARS. Ukraine’s army struggled in 2014 when Crimea was taken and the Donbas war started. Mobilized soldiers have nothing to do with special forces. Again, NATO has been training them for YEARS.

No, we’re both talking about a response to the bridge. For some reason you posted Russia’s claims about the bridge and claimed I said the opposite. I never remarked on the strength of the bridge defenses so how could i have said the opposite?

You said Russia never responded to the attack, and then that they responded too late. What is an indisputable fact is that, 2 days after the attack, Russia launched a huge multi-day missile barrage, and Vladimir Putin announced it was a response to the attack. It is really difficult to imagine a situation where you could be more wrong.

Meh, I only used the general to one-up bikki’s lame attempts to cite some random colonel. The truth is, everything these guys say is propaganda. I don’t take them at their word.

Yes, there is disinformation out there. For every tweet or telegram post that says one thing, there’s another that says the opposite.

What you need to understand is that I’m not taking these posts at face value. When I claim a city was taken, it’s because both side of the conflict and international observers all agree. When I claim a city was liberated, it’s because Russian mappers admit it.

Open Source Intelligence is far far from perfect, but it’s an attempt to collect facts that have been proven. For anyone that doubts my track record, you have 8 long posts about the Ukraine war to look through. If I have posted disinformation, I am sure someone will point it out.

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I wasn’t lol’ing at you. Just at the information.

I’ll keep repeating that NOTHING can be trusted during “war.” It’s the ultimate con game.

Christ- this is my point. So now the question is “who’s special forces.”

I think American.

I have to go back and read but I thought you said there was only a rag tag group defending it. Maybe I misread.

But the ultimate point is… if it is indeed so well guarded then it was definitely spec ops. And no one does it like us.

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GSCl :lying_face: wn is absolutely delusional, I’m glad that our entire board of 10 people finally agree.

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Nevermind the facts like Ukraine has the second largest army in the region and they have already been fighting Russia for over 8 years.

You are such a dunce, GSCl :lying_face: wn

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Such a dummy.

You know the 1 thing that separates the US Navy from China in terms of expertise and overall power? It’s not the equipment or the armament. It’s the number of experienced Admirals.

Don’t take my word for it, it’s the opinion of Stratford Founder and geopolitical expert George Friedman.

And it’s not that China doesn’t train their admirals. They’ve been training them for 50+ years with all modern techniques. The difference is the APPLIED KNOWLEDGE FACTOR.

American Admirals have been taught by American Admirals before them who fought in multiple wars and understand the most nuanced of nuanced maneuvers. The Chinese simply don’t have this expertise.

Same with Ukraine. Their operators simply haven’t been engaged in combat like American Special Operators have. It’s that simple.

But carry on with your nonsense premature bloviation as usual.