2 Russia Invades Ukraine

https://www.foxnews.com/media/journalists-blame-trump-election-capitol-riot-russia-invading-ukraine.amp

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: “journalists”? You mean ONE? “Journalist?”

Shit. I can send any news outlet an article claiming i know the truth.

You gotta do better than that.

Prove to me that the left is taking the position that trump was the deciding factor in Putin invading a sovereign nation.

You have no problem with Trump dry-humping Putin and Kim. Yet you distance yourselves when they actually do bad things.

Still waiting.

Here we go.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/russia-ukraine-vladimir-putin-antony-blinken-soviet-bloc-expansion/

This isn’t playing dumb and it had nothing to do with the Dems. All I did was sum up posts # 2, 3, and 4 in this thread. Maybe you should look up those posts at the very top of this thread, because I summed them up accurately.

For the record, I still don’t understand why anybody is talking about Trump here. There was no reason to bring him up.

No surprise that Putin invaded during Obama and Biden’s presidencies, but not Trump’s. Obama’s foreign policy was a failure, and Biden’s is even worse. The entire world sees Biden as being demented. Always a fool, Biden is now a demented fool and a world laughing stock.

Oh the irony of projection.

So instead of saying thanks for the info and I guess you are right, you have to minimize it and say “prove” the left is talking about this?

Trump’s name was brought up because SOME in the media are talking about him regarding Russia.

I agree with you that it’s dumb and hard to believe they are but as is evidenced by GSC and what I told you about on the CNN shows, they clearly are.

Do you need more proof now, or can we accept the statement and move on?

When hasn’t trumps name been brought up wrt politics since roughly 2014? I’d take a broader look here.

Why is Trumps name brought up wrt to Russia and Putin now? B/c trump idolizes Putin (in office and out). B/c Putin has american conservatives as putty in the palms of his hands. American conservatives LOVE stong men who rule unilaterally with an iron fist, squashing dissidents of their ideology. It is their DNA, no matter how antithetical it is to American Democracy.

Yes. You said it. Prove to me the left is taking the position that trump was the deciding factor in Putin choosing to invade.

Think about how dumb that it for a second. WTF does Putin care about trump, other than he knows trump is always in his back pocket?

Shit, Putin could ask Trump to take over in Ukraine as his puppet president and trump would probably agree and say he’s flattered.

I know its from Instagram so clealry the source should be dismissed but the link below provides some insight behind why Biden’s energy policies forcing the US to be dependent on others like Russia is simply bad policy.

GSC provided you a couple examples of folks blaming Trump.

Don’t shift the goal posts here. No one said the sole reason they invaded was Trump. They said he was partially to blame.

This is what Skeeter talks about with your responses. Keeping things going when you’ve been answered. Then you change the argument.

I’ve never seen someone say prove it so much after you’ve been shown proof.

They didn’t have to. Trump was working to dismantle NATO and pull us out. When Trump lost the election, Putin went on his own.

You only mentioned that WAY after the fact. You were even asked about why and you waited to mention the media. And I’d agree that blaming Trump for this is dumb. Obviously all presidents may have played a part, even going back to Clinton and Bush, since we’re talking about history regarding the breakup of the Soviets.

But at the end of the day this is about Putin pushing back against NATO.

Am I missing something or does this have nothing to do with Biden? The headline mentions EU policy, and Trump is specifically criticizing Germany. In fact, I believe (am I correct?) that this is during Trump’s presidency around 2017 or 18, when “Biden’s energy policies” can’t exist yet.

305,

Trump made it very clear to Germany as well as the EU they needed to stop relying so heavily on Russia for their energy needs. Trump made it a top priority during his four years to move America toward energy independence. He was successful in doing just that, correct?

One of Biden’s earliest policies dealt specifically with energy. America is no longer energy independent. We import more than we export which was not the case when Biden came into power.

Here’s a link to a chart of US oil imports from Russia - U.S. Imports from Russia of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels)

Here’s an interesting read - Biden’s Energy Agenda To Reduce Oil Production And Boost Prices | OilPrice.com

Biden’s energy policies weaken America’s economy. We shouldn’t have to worry economically about what goes on halfway around the world if we were able to take care of our own stuff here at home.

Has Biden’s energy policy not weakened America?

How was Trump successful when Germany made a commitment to Russia?

This isn’t true. European security is very important to all of the West, including us.

Let me read your article and get back to you on that point later.

Why are you taking a sentence out of complete context and posing a question about something I never said.

Your first two points in your recent reply do just that. With your second point, you clearly ignore my use of “economically” when discussing an event impacting us here.

Sorry, misread that first point.

My beef is that you post a video of Trump criticizing Germany and then say Biden’s policies are at fault here. The truth is the GERMANY’S policy is at fault here, and Trump was rightfully against it, but he couldn’t influence Germany away from their decision (not blaming him, but weird to blame Biden?).

As to your second point, being energy independent does not mean the price of oil won’t fluctuate with world events. We would still worry economically, yes.

But I’ve bookmarked your article and will get back to you on Biden’s policy.