I agree religion is the single worst thing man has ever created. But hey if you want to believe In an invisible man in the sky then that’s your business.
We all should. Absolutely.
But because the system isnt as good as you want it to be….murder?
Unacceptable.
It’s an opinion that it is murder…most people don’t feel it is.
Choosing to intentionally end a life is murder.
Regardless of opinion or how people feel.
I think we already do that in terms of taxes for government programs right?
I’m sympathetic of moms in tough spots. Those that weren’t ready or financially have hardships etc. But none of that justifies an abortion IMO.
Adoption is always an option. If you can’t financially afford a child you have a couple pretty reasonable options 1) don’t get pregnant and 2) put the child up for adoption if you can’t keep him or her.
And yes, I’ll support those that are not aborted.
Choosing to not mind your own fucking business is murder. You are legit promoting murder with your view my guy.
Studies find that unsafe abortion is responsible for one in eight maternal deaths globally
I believe that religion is a myth, but I think that certain religions are more ethical than others. Islam is the worst world menace today and allowing it to spread in Western nations is a grievous error which after the passage of time will be duly regretted.
There are millions of religious people who are fine and upstanding citizens who raise their children right and with whom I have high regard, even admiration.
What? I’m promoting murder by opposing the murder of the unborn? What?
Choosing to have an unsafe abortion is (obviously) very dangerous……and because that might happen - we need resources in place to make sure that those who consider it have other options. But your position on this as a result is……a safe an convenient way for babies to die?
Talk about bass ackwards
By what standard do you judge this moral/ethical statement?
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No what is ass backwards is you assuming you have some knowledge on when life begins because your fake ass religion blinds you retarded.
The latter, getting rid of abortion, ABSOLUTELY leads to murder. You are promoting murder. This is quantifiable. Your fake ass religious belief system isn’t. Until then, shove it up your ass and keep your laws off her body.
Please explain how I’m promoting murder. Don’t just make a provocative statement - elaborate. How am I promoting murder?
The perpetual argument from the left. What about that body of the other human inside?
Do you want abortions to be legal or not?
I’d like you to clarify when you think a human is within the womb.
No. I don’t want the legal murder of the unborn to be legal. I literally don’t want murder to happen.
And somehow you think I’m supporting murder.
Conception.
Without human intervention that fetus becomes perfectly viable.
First, there isn’t a human at conception. That would be the most idiotic take anyone could have.
Second, banning abortion leads to illegal abortions which lead to death. Therefore, you are supporting murder
And you literally can’t argue against either of these two points.
There absolutely is.
I don’t support any murder. Legal or illegal.
You’re supporting legal murder. It’s still murder.
You aren’t on the right side of this argument.
Djrion is hilarious. It’s not a human?
Then what species of animal is that blastocyst, zygote, fetus?
You aren’t on the right side of this argument. THIS IS AN OPINION…It is not fact.
The dogma is strong though. There are multiple disciplines all with varying opinions on the matter. They see through only two that I can tell.
A conclusion is that the pre-embryo requires the establishment of special rules in the society: it cannot claim absolute protection based on claims of personhood; although meriting respect, it does not have the same moral value that a human person has. Today, one largely accepted opinion is that until the 14th day from fertilization or at least, until implantation -the human embryo may not be considered, from the ontological point of view, as an individual.
Genetic uniqueness and singleness coincide only after implantation and restriction have completed, which is about 3 weeks after fertilization. Until that period, the zygote and its sequelae are in a fluid process, are not physical individual, and therefore cannot be a person.
Monozygotic twins phenomenon or chimeras can occur. In fact, this seems to be the strongest reason why the embryo is denied the quality of individuality and as a proof that the zygote cannot be an ontologically human being. In approximately one third of cases the embryo divides at about the two cells stage and in the other two thirds the inner cell mass divides within the blastocyst from day 38. Occasionally, the division takes place from day 8-12 but usually it is not complete thereby forming conjoined identical twins on two-headed individuals.
Without a doubt, you are wrong (GSClown and 51) that this subject has a singular, unified answer. I have learned though that I need to reframe some of my arguments.
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Just like to add that the full article linked is ABSOLUTELY brilliant and super well balanced. I have cherry picked positions that I prefer, but that certainly there are positions that concur with GSClown and 51 within it. The point tho is to show that the debate isn’t resolved which is what they’d like you to believe.
This leads us to a pretty good conclusion - they are either dishonest or not very well educated on the subject. We know for certain GSClown is dishonest as he lies over and over again in this forum, but I’ll give 51 the benefit of the doubt that he hasn’t spent any real time trying to understand the topic outside of his religion.
I stand by my position that without intervention a newly formed fetus will develop into a viable one. Hence, human life. And attempts to end human life - especially for the sake of convenience - is unacceptable.
I pray that this leaked opinion is the real one.
To your other point - you are reaching far to accuse me of supporting murder by not supporting abortion - which is murder. I support the unborn - and help/resources for pregnant women - which I’ve said before needs to be better.
If I supported murder (I don’t) based on my view of abortion - you clearly support something far worse.
It isn’t a reach at all. By promoting pro-life, you are actively killing women. There isn’t a debate to be had about. Unlike the other argument.