Ya except none of these are being “Thrown under the bus” in America to the point this wack job left media is saying they are.
I’m open to continued improvement and more of a fight for all the underdogs, second chances, etc…Hell, I’m for it. But there is a limit and I’m sure you would agree with that. This is an extreme take imo…Only speaks to a small amount of the population, who are still afraid of different cultures, religions, etc…
There are happy mediums and compromises for everything. And the average middle or even right leaning individual in this country are FAR more acceptable to differences than was the case in the past.
So because there are a lot of groups that are not treated as well as they should be that’s an excuse for infanticide?
Not buying it.
Flat out, you use words that don’t apply. You always have and do with this topic. It proves you’re beyond unreasonable when it comes to this. Infanticide means you kill a living child, after its born, within a year of its birth.
If you have to lie to support your point, your point is full of shit.
The “wackjob left media” didn’t write this; a pastor from Alabama did. This quote truly originated with a 2018 social media post from Dave Barnhart, a pastor at Saint Junia United Methodist Church in Birmingham, Alabama.
I’m not sure what you mean. This relates to prisoners, the poor, immigrants, the sick, widows, orphans…and you don’t think this account for a viable % of our population?
I’m really not sure what you’re getting at. The point of the writeup was that the “unborn” a convenient thing to use as political fodder. They don’t ask anything of you. When it comes to fixing problems for living people, many of these same fanatics who want abortion 100% banned won’t lift a finger. But, screaming outside and calling woman murders and lying about infanticide (like 51 below) is easy. Doesn’t cost anything. Doesn’t take any effort. Once that kid is born, though, they can go screw off is usually their take.
Interesting thoughts, Warden.
Roe does nothing that will stop abortions. There is nothing in the Constitution proscribing women’s reproductive rights. A woman is an individual and according to our law has rights that are unalienable. Ergo, a woman should have the highest magnitude right to govern her own body.
Humans control life and death, both in their milieu and in the animal world. As environmental conditions change, decisions about life and death also change. Is it a good decision to increase population during a time of famine? Is it the right of one religious sect to impose it procreational values on others? Does a rape victim want to raise the child of the miscreant who raped her? Should humans consider population control to moderate the growth of the herd?
IMO, people need to tend to their own knitting. Abortion is here to stay. The rights of equality were made by and apply to the people who were born. Theirs should have precedence over those of the unborn.
What you posted claims to justify abortion because other groups don’t get the attention the unborn does. This is purely deflection. Just because you think a certain group (immigrants, the incarcerated) aren’t treated the way that they perhaps should be is not an excuse to kill the unborn.
And since you mentioned it - killing an otherwise viable fetus is literal infanticide in my view. You can deflect and refer to the literal definition of a word, to me it’s simply ignoring the obvious.
“Your view” is made up. It’s fake. It flies in the face of the actual definition. Nobody gives a fuck if you disagree with the Dictionary.
How’s this - in MY VIEW, a free throw is worth 3 points. How’s that going to play out tonight when I watch the Mavs and the Suns? Are they going to call me and ask or give a fuck what I think?
The “obvious” is that you think your view of what a word means overrides the actual definition and the ENTIRE WORLD’S definition. It’s narcissistic and its weak. It means you don’t have a viable argument because you either can’t be honest about it or you haven’t put forth the effort to build a real argument so you have to invent definitions to words that already exist and contradict your interpretation.
This is FALSE. What I posted show the bankrupt worldview of people like you who want to outlaw abortion 100%, no matter what. What I posted shows that when it comes to actually doing something for people, anti-abortion people usually don’t actually give a fuck. They don’t give a shit about people. They give a shit about political fodder that doesn’t cost you anything and doesn’t make you lift a finger. Does that include you, personally? Dunno. No idea really. But, it DEFINITELY includes a myriad of those I see all the time attacking women at abortion clinics.
If we are going to outlaw something. I’d prefer to outlaw religion, including yours. I know it’ll never happen and I don’t agree with taking such freedoms away, but if we have a list and I have to choose- the very worst thing in human history is our religions. Nothing has made us more ignorant, more violent, more brutal than those fucking religions.
I’ll readily admit if I had to pick a group I most despise in the world, it is all churches, mosques, all religion. As far as Christianity, I put Catholicism up there at the top. We have nearly 2000 years of history showing the single most corrupt, brutal, hypocritical organization in the history of the world is the Catholic Church. You can’t come up with a “sin” they haven’t had hundreds of years engaging in.
And yes Bikki - Islam is at the top of that list today in all were on the board
You love to put people in a box and categorize them…Makes it easier for you to point out a “bad guy”
You don’t speak for every single person…And the groups you are saying these people are ignoring or flat out “against” helping are already being helped in many ways (not to mention that you can care about helping “both”). And many people who are against abortion aren’t doing anything to step in the way of this help/improvements/change nor do they fundamentally desire to.
I just don’t understand the left’s perceived “obligation” to help other people by attacking and hating others…Help yourself, that’s all we are responsible for. If you want to say they are out of pocket by meddling in people’s rights to their own bodily decision, I wouldn’t disagree with that part of it…We are on same page. But this “don’t give a shit about people” is so fucking overblown and easily abused it’s ridiculous. You don’t get to attack and abuse what people give a shit about.
That’s why I laugh when I hear everyone’s obsession with the trendy “empathy” stance in today’s leftist push…So easily abused
I realize some people need the dictionary definition as a way to rationalize what is terrible.
I liked that you used the word viable. My twin and I were born at 7 months. We survived. My mother could have aborted us if she chose. It’s pathetic infanticide.
We aren’t going to agree on this. And that’s ok.
It’s not false. It’s deflection. I can want better treatment of immigrants (I do) while also advocating for the unborn. You’re saying abortion should be allowed immigrants aren’t treated to some standard? The two are not the same things.
This isn’t backed up by data or shown to be true in any sense. It’s a generalization that isn’t based in fact. It’s your opinion.
And people aren’t “attacking” women at abortion clinics en masse. Does praying outside an abortion clinic equal attacking women?
Where are the liberals helping all these people. You super carers you. When you just don’t like the stance someone takes, the lazy and easy way out is to generalize them as bad people rather than argue against their point. In this case that point is that there is a real person in the womb that has rights.
And the reason people focus on abortion so much is because it is literally an attack on a helpless person. It’s a fundamental issue. If you can’t support life there, you are off base from the beginning.
The Catholic Church is also against euthanasia and capital punishment too. It’s not all abortion all the time. And they are pro immigrant and helping the poor.
From their standpoint the “help” is easy access to abortion.
And yes, the deflection is everywhere. This isn’t about being Catholic, but he brought it up. Ok. I’m Catholic and have already voiced my view on the scandal. Regardless, it’s an entirely separate topic.
Christians fight for everyone of those other marginalized groups. Such a dumb statement.
Elite 80 used to have the same argument. But but but abortion is ok because you don’t care about other groups. You only care about fetuses. Therefore, you are hypocritical and abortion should be allowed.
Hard to follow the logic.
But it’s not even true Indiana. Christians adopt at a higher rate than anyone. They help all groups of people in all situations. It’s just a dumb statement by these guys to deflect.
I’ve been to an abortion clinic and you’re full of shit. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. They aren’t fucking praying.
No, there’s not. A person is born, by definition. That’s why we have words like zygote and fetus. Hell, Louisiana wants to assign the rights of a person to a fertilized egg, BEFORE its implanted, therefore, before conception. This would allow them to charge women and girls with homicide for in vitro fertilization and other forms of birth control. It’s outlandish.
In another state, they are forcing women to carry to term an ectopic pregnancy, which cannot result in a live birth and will probably kill the mother.
Do you seem to care about living women? Nope, doesn’t seem so. Again, it’s easier to assign your care to something that doesn’t require you to do anything for them, like the unborn.
A person is born.
Again, you literally have to change the definition of a word to support your argument.
Not necessarily. “Help” goes to living people, people that are born.
Says the guy who supports the party who attacks literally every other group beyond straight, white males. What a fucking joke.