I’ll believe it when I see it.
Meh. We’ll see. I tend to doubt it. Maybe I’m wrong.
I would love for them to actually indict him.
It would open up precedent for every future president and past president to receive the same treatment.
But they better have him nailed to the cross with 2 red hands.
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I think it sets a terrible precedent and we will go down a very dark rabbit hole.
Even if Trump is vindicated, which I think is highly possible given the horrendous track record of the folks trying to nail him so far, it’s really bad going forward.
The Republicans are going to crucify these scummy Dems, just absolutely crucify them. And the country will be torn apart even more.
Now the corrupt Dems deserve everything they get, and many of the Repubs are scummy too, but I actually have hope that we can sort of get along at some point and live together and not hate the other side for having a different opinion.
We are moving farther and farther away from that point.
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I would be very careful of BusinessInsider. In my book they’re about as biased as CNN. But pay attention to the facts.
Remember how esteemed Alan Dershowitz has been among the ranks of GSC and bikki? How much he’s defended Trump over the last few years? He agrees that the FBI had every right to raid Mar-a-lago.
And there’s your affidavit release, boys.
Also note, @GSC, how little the classification status matters. You can keep repeating what Trump’s lawyers repeat if you like, but you would do well to remember the poor quality of his lawyers first.
He was esteemed by all until he defended the truth and Trump was behind it. The guy has taught at Harvard Law for 4 decades.
You’re starting to become sloppy. Show me where I ever said “the fbi doesn’t have the right” to raid Mar-a-Lago or any of President Trump’s properties if they have a warrant. You won’t find it because I didn’t say it.
What I have been saying is that they should have done it a different way. They made this much more high profile and dangerous than it should have ever been. They (the DOJ) could have taken the former administration to court. They chose the criminal route. It was very very odd in this instance.
Again, sloppy. I only discussed the classification status because that was the topic of the thread that Djrion created. I wasn’t dying on a hill or saying it was the end all be all.
But I get it… you got waxed in that discussion so a pivot is in order. I understand.
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I don’t see this as a good thing for the Dems or the country no matter how this turns out and here’s why.
If he’s indicted, it further splinters the country and people see it as political. I think the divide is clearer.
If he isn’t, people see it as a witch hunt and dig in even deeper.
Either way, it’s a lose lose.
I think we flip the House in 2022 and the Senate stays Dem. Then it’s stalemate until 2024 and we see what happens.
They tried, though, right? After 2 years what else were they supposed to do?
What they ended up doing was not a big deal. It feels very appropriate to me.
You kept going on about it well after Warden and I explained it mattered little. But glad to know you’re not hanging your hat on that aspect.
You will note that everything I said in that thread was accurate, however. (Sometimes people need a little hindsight to come around.)
I mean, it’s not a lose-lose if Trump was selling/sharing/sloppy with classified documents and the DOJ put a stop to that. There’s a clear win in recovering the documents.
Sue. There’s levels of escalation right?
First you talk privately. Can’t settle it? Go to the courts. Why criminal? It screams desperation if we’re being honest. Maybe they felt they’d lose civilly? That’s my guess.
I’m sorry but this is just a dumb statement. If they raided Obama’s house would you feel the same? 100% you wouldn’t.
Whether you like Trump or not he’s a former President. This move is absolutely disgraceful. And your comment reinforces how un-neutral you have always been.
What do you mean by why criminal? I was under the impression nothing criminal happened yet.
I don’t understand what you think search warrants are for then. It seems like they often occur before trial, no?
I have no love for Obama so I’m not sure why you think that. If the DOJ has a solid reason to raid his house and multiple judges and the AG sign off on it, I wouldn’t be crying about it, you can bet on that.
In my mind that’s about as neutral as it gets.
When you send the FBI in and threaten to prosecute under 3 separate statutes, that, by definition, is escalating it to the criminal level of jurisprudence.
Such a BiKKKi post.
All words, 0 substance. Complete trash
If there is enough to try him and they think they have enough to convict, they should. Doesn’t matter if he is a former president or the janitor at the local HS. The rule of law should be adhered to and upheld - that is the precedent. If trump is found guilty, then future presidents will hopefully learn from the incident and not make the same mistakes.
The whole rationale that the president should be above the law in this instance is pure garbage spewed by our resident trump cum guzzler GSCl 
wn so that he can keep drinking his Lord savior, trump’s cum.
When DJ has nothing he goes ad hominem.
Classic DJ.
He does it a lot for those paying attention. Smart guy that just bows out when he either can’t refute stuff or just gets angry.
Warden has a bit of this too but he’s more of a troll.
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Except when it comes to summer '20 riots huh?
“we will not prosecute”
Fuckin hypocrite/partisan sheep/commie cunt
Okay, so no indictments yet. I thought maybe something had happened that I didn’t know about. That’s what I mean by nothing criminal happened yet.
Are you playing dumb?
They executed a warrant dude. That means they went before a judge with probable cause that a law or multiple laws were broken, and that judge, relying on their information, approved the warrant.
That by nature makes this a criminal investigation. It isn’t a civil matter.
Whether an indictment comes or not (and I find it likely) it is a criminal matter right now.
Reality finally sinks in
Taken GSCl wn 2 weeks to finally hear the music
Nope. By your complaints about criminal stuff happening, I thought there was a new event I hadn’t heard of.
I understand that the warrant and resulting search can lead to a criminal indictment. As I have said, they had good cause to execute the warrant, whether or not they intend to seek charges. The main goal, remember, was to recover the documents that Trump wouldn’t turn over.