Apparently Qkeeter isn’t satisfied with just me handing his ass to him in his dumb “prevention” argument. He wants 305 to help.
And I cannot understand how you can say that considering the droves of posted sources that proves they do work.
You’re choosing to be ignorant.
Yes
The title of the article clearly says “most”
And we had record cases nearly days late dec/early January
This shit is like clubbing seals with you idiots
And apparently you’re the seal.
We’ve posted proof that your claims of horseshit. But you keep fighting. You’re like a mouse who keeps getting shocked by the piece of cheese attached to the electrode.
51, do you know with certainty that five years from today, the vaccine may cause you to develop cancer. Studies have found recently higher cancer rates among the vaccinated. Knowing that the recovery rate for Covid is greater than 99 percent, why would you risk getting a jab comprised of wholly experimental medicine. The vaccine does NOT prevent you from getting Omicron. In fact, it is thought that the vaccine increases your chances of getting Omicron. Covid should be treated like influenza. The ones who are sick should be isolated, not the healthy. Sweden shut down nothing. They handled the virus intelligently.
Do we know this about any new vaccine that has ever been developed throughout history?
Based on this logic let’s just completely scrap the development of any vaccine in the future.
Post proof. Don’t just say it.
Why then did you get vaccinated?
It’s risk vs reward. It’s also the risk of me getting it and spreading it to someone else who may have a tougher time with it.
It shouldn’t be all about one person. The welfare of others should be considered.
Again, don’t just say it, post proof of this. Because we have posted proof that it does prevent transmission. Again - not close to as good as we hoped, but it does.
You’re really good at making all these statements and proclamations, but you rarely post data backing your claims.
Odd considering your apparent career as a scientist.
But this has been debunked from multiple angles.
You want to get it to protect yourself, cool. But to say you are getting it to protect others is dumb for two reasons.
If they get the vaccine and the vaccine works, they should be protected right? Or does the vaccine not work to prevent severe cases?
You’ve tied yourself into a pretzel with this one. 305 is with you. He doesn’t have solid arguments on this topic. Normally he does but he’s spinning his wheels here.
Secondly, you can still transmit with the vaccine, so you really aren’t saving anyone else by getting it. You get this right?
What has been debunked? It’s proven that being vaccinated helps prevent spread. If I’m not vaccinated, I could get it and spread it to someone else who could have a harder time with it, especially if they aren’t vaccinated, if you’re vaccinated and do get it, it’s proven that you have an enormous advantage over someone who gets it and is not vaccinated (much lower chance of severe disease).
You can. But you’re less likely to do so if you’re vaccinated.
Again I can’t understand why y’all are so anti vaccine when it’s clearly been proven to save lives. But at the same time you sing Trump’s praises for its development.
If you think the vaccine doesn’t work (it does) and is some kind of poison (it isn’t), I want you all to publicly state that Trump fucked this up.
I’m waiting.
No nothing you’ve posted refutes my correct statement…Unless you add words
Really that simple cunt
This would be true for someone like you who doesn’t read or do research.
This is a stupid statement because I’ve never been a Trump fan boy for the vaccine. The vaccine appears to be ok but it doesn’t look that great and it’s becoming less effective with the variants. In fact it’s looks to be doing nothing for Omicron. It’s not very helpful at all.
Dudes just blurting shit out
He’s a mess
It appears to be ok? That’s definitely not the angle from which you’re approaching this. This is also an odd statement that you say “appears to be ok” but then end with “not very helpful at all.
And this isn’t the first vaccine that has become less effective as new variants emerge. That’s actually quite common.
Against Omicron it isn’t helping. Do you dispute this?
Yes, I am. Because while not perfect, it is helping prevent spread - and it’s absolutely and very clearly reducing the risk of severe disease and death.
Have you read any of the data referring to this?
Indiana- they are too committed to the vaccine. It’s no use.
We just went through record numbers in terms of cases with over 60% of population vaxxed but the vaccine prevents spread? So only the unvaxxed we’re spreaders I’m supposing lol.
They can’t detach now- this has been a 2 year mind fuck for them. They are prepared to die on this hill.
And you are too committed to your opinion that it doesn’t work that you’re ignoring that if vaccinated, you have a vastly lower chance of severe disease or death.
And you’re vaccinated. Why are you ignoring this?
See above.
It really is a shame. You, Bikki and Qkeeter DONT WANT the vaccine to work. Makes no sense.
I’m vaccinated. I have every single motivation to hope that it’s effective and works. I want it to stop spread and to do everything you claim. I’m actually biased on your side. I just don’t believe it.
You don’t believe it because you refuse to read the objective data on severe disease and death. Why?
Yes I’ve seen the data and listened to some doctors like representative Greg Murphy talk about it. They all say that it’s doing very little for Omicron. It was reasonably effective for Alpha and less effective for Delta. It’s doing next to nothing to reduce the spread of Omicron.
And all the whole, it is vastly reducing severe infection and death. Yes?