I’m talking about the spread, not severe infection and death.
Ok - spread, not as well as we hoped.
But in the end, isn’t reducing severe infection and death the goal?
I can’t understand that either. Luckily, most people are agreeing to a vaccine that does work.
Agreed. So thank you again for supporting the effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines in reducing transmission.
Um, it depends. The vaccine, masks, etc. all give you a greater chance. But nothing is 100%. so anything you can do to reduce the chance helps, hence yes, you protect others by protecting yourself.
You’ve never debated me on it, but if you’d like to start i just tossed the ball in your court.
You can transmit, but you’re lowering the chances, especially if your vaccine prevented infection. You get this too, right?
Just what you yourself posted…
No no no. Why are you being so dense about this? The vaccine HELPS prevent spread. Stop arguing with a straw man because none of them are here.
Plenty of vaxxers spread too. Omicron is 300% more infectious, and it’s more resistant to the vaccine as well. So the vaccines help a bit but yes, they are being outmuscled by the variant. It doesn’t mean you stop helping yourself totally.
GSC keeps talking about himself and hopes no one notices.
No one wants the vaccine to work more than me. I’m completely tired of COVID.
Your opinions and articles you post disagree with you.
It is hilarious how they have now adopted our language all along. Now they are trying to pretend like they are right using our language. Fucking embarrassing.
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Doesn’t look that way with Omicron, does it?
Bingo, he admitted it. They aren’t helping much with Omicron and that’s what the doctors are saying. Thanks for acknowledging that and being honest.
I can’t think of a more embarrassing poster on the board than you.
I guess, at the very least, they are admitting the vaccines work now.
Fucking embarrassing tripping over your own tongues daily to continuously prop up conservative ideology.
Everyone I know right now getting COVID is vaccinated. Everyone. Must be a coincidence and they must be getting it from the unvaccinated right? You are deluded, man. The vaccine was pretty good early with preventing death for some people but it’s not worth much now. The experts agree with me. Not sure why you are arguing against that.
It’s better than nothing, and you’re inferring that the vaccines don’t work at all, at any level, which is patently false.
You clearly have not read any data (some of which I posted here) that proves the vaccine substantially reduces the risk of hospitalization and death.
It’s as clear as day and you are willfully ignoring it.
How is it doing against Omicron?
Post those numbers please
Thank you. Another admission along with 305, better than nothing. Lol
I have posted them. More than once. Why do I have to do it again? You won’t even read it anyway.
But you’re saying the vaccines don’t work. Your words:
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The vaccine was pretty good early with preventing death for some people but it’s not worth much now.
This is simply not true. If you’re vaccinated and catch it, it’s very unlikely that you’ll develop severe symptoms.
I’m vaccinated. So is my wife. Both my kids got COVID. Neither one of us contracted it. I realize we’re just 2 people, but it works.
I don’t know of a single person fully vaccinated who developed severe disease from COVID. If the vaccine flat out didn’t work, this wouldn’t be the case.
Show some integrity here.
Not worth much=better than 0 but low effectiveness.
Do you understand the English language. You come across really dense on here sometimes. Not meant to be a flame, just an observation.
Post the studies that show that it prevents transmission of COVID. That’s what I’ve been arguing on here the entire thread. You can’t post them or won’t for transmission of Omicron.
I know people who are double vaxxed and boosted that got COVID three times and while not hospitalized were down for the count for over a week. The Vaccine isn’t very effective in preventing COVID transmission for Omicron.
So you admit that if you’re vaccinated you’ve got a hell of a better shot at staying out of the hospital, yes?
This is an odd statement from someone who is actively ignoring easily findable data that proves my point.
I have. More than once. Why won’t you go read them?
It’s really sick. You guys DONT WANT the vaccine to work. Literally. You’d rather have it not work at all, post links about people going to the hospital and dying, all so you can prove a point.
Here you go.
That’s not what I’ve ever argued for or against. Without the vaccine you have 99% chance of avoiding the hospital. With the vaccine, that number is closer to 100%. Both chances are really high for most people that you will be fine.
If you are old and have comorbidities, the numbers obviously change.
But if you are young and healthy, this is the flu or a bad cold. It’s pretty simple.