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That is very debatable, but all presidents say things that are false. Trump exceeds expectations in that department. Neither one of these men should be the president nor continue in my opinion.
This is a really strange point because Trump had zero to do with the Roe V Wade. That was a SCOTUS decision. So to say Trump did it and then didnât plan for repercussions is wild.
The feeling of the Supreme Court majority in removing Roe v Wade was that abortion is an issue that has no place in a national constitution. I think the Court arrived at the correct decision on the matter. While I donât like abortions, I believe that women have inherent rights as humans to govern their own bodies. Depriving women of same denies them equal rights under law. However, humans comprise a species of life, and being able to control population when the health of the species is threatened is an existential right of survival. Republicans are stupid to embrace forbidding abortion on a religious basis since our country is not a theocracy.
GSC, really. He appointed three judges all of which were responsible for overturning roe. This is the biggest problem I have with trump supporters. Just accept that trump was responsible. There is zero percent chance that if the court was equal it would have ever been overturned.
I am not for abortions. That being said I am not one who should be deciding a decision for a woman who I have never met. That is her decision. I donât believe the Supreme Court should be making that decision.
The only thing the supreme court did really was send it back to the states by the overturn. Abortions are a free will decision. One in which that Iâm totally against. I find it hypocritical to deny the unborn a fair chance at development by those who were allowed to develop.
The unbornâŚlol - that is your opinion. My biggest issue with those against abortion who feels that way will help pay for that child. Nah that socialism. Canât give the kid financial help. Canât provide food. Canât provide clothing. Canât provide homes for those kids. Once they are born all those against abortion are against taking care of those kids. Itâs such bs. I am all for getting rid of abortions as long as those who want it to go away are responsible for those same kids.
Go and watch Wade Wilson. One parent was 14 the other may have been 13. They had that child. After having it gave it up for adoption. Wow that worked out well. Maybe if that teenager had aborted that kid we would have had not had that monster in the streets. Go and look at all those locked up or others who commit crimes. Most come from broken homes, single moms who canât support those kidsâŚbut yeah letâs keep over populating our planet because some feel a month old fetus is actually a person.
If it a moral issue and somehow that individual actually gets to meet the individual man in the skyâŚthen let them have to explain their actions. Until that day happens let people do what they want.
Good post, Fish⌠Raising a child is a task requiring responsible and devoted parents, two parents preferable to one. Oneâs past has lot to do with being a civilized human. Some of the worst humans propagate, emitting a constant supply of societal miscreants. While I favor abortion, I find late-term abortion bordering on being an abomination.
Bikki, I donât believe and I am sure you feel the same way that anyone is truly for abortion. That being said. most people donât make good parents. Forcing a single women to have a child who may have had a one night stand is not got me to decide what she wants to do. For a women who is in an abusive relationship with a man and she gets pregnant it is not my place to tell her what to do. For a women who gets raped it is not my place to tell that women what to do.
I feel that abortion should be left up to that women. I canât tell someone who lives across the country, canât afford kids, comes from a poor neighborhood and force them to have a kid they donât want. I think that is morally wrong.
Or how about teaching people to abstain from sexual activity if they donât want to bring children in the world? Especially the individuals who cannot nor want to take care of a child. Iâm all for helping the less fortunate. Thatâs not the issue. Itâs people who want to have sex, but do not want the consequences that come along with it. Would it not be appropriate for people to think, âHey! I should at least use contraception if I donât want to have kids.â? Using abortions as a form of birth control is outrageous.
This whiny cunt lists 19 âbiggest problems or biggest issuesâ a weekâŚ
âMy biggest problem isâŚâ (then about 4 more sentences of worthless drivel)
âMy biggest issue isâŚâ (then another poorly written paragraph of bullshit)
lol. Teaching people to abstain from sex. This is straight comical. Sorry to tell you this but if people did not screw we would have a country and a world where everyone would be miserable. 
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You conveniently left off the part about âIf you donât want to have kidsâ. Actions have consequences. I also see you stayed away from the use of contraceptives that I mentioned as well. Again, abortions being used as birth control is an abomination. If one doesnât want to deal with potential consequences, one should avoid actions that would trigger said consequences. There are so many people who want to have children and cannot afford medical interventions; and then we have people just having casual sex, one night stands, and other types of sexual encounters that result in pregnancy, but then they donât want the child. It is not ok to just terminate a life (and it is a life), just because we have those that say, âOh, itâs just a clump of cellsâ, âOh, itâs just a parasiteâ, "Oh, itâs not alive unless itâs born, or any other sayings in an attempt to dehumanize the fact that a fertilized egg that will under normal circumstances develop just like we were allowed to. I believe you or someone else have stated something to the effect about a child being potentially born into poverty. Every single person on this planet is potentially one day away from being in poverty. Person can be rich today, have a bad day at the stock exchange, and broke tomorrow. Good paying job, job goes out of business, now a person canât pay the mortgage and the rest of the bills. Thatâs not a good reason to abort a life. If you donât want a baby, donât engage in sexual activity. Thatâs the only way to guarantee that you wonât create an unwanted pregnancy. Please donât use the rape argument because rape accounts for less than 1% of all abortions.
Once again it is your opinion that it is a life. That is the problem with your argument and those on the right. Have you seen a tadpole. Most people domt see it as life at conception. Your belief is an opinion and one that is based off religion. Sorry but that is not enough for you or anyone else to dictate what someone else that is not related to you making decisions for.
If you are against abortions then that is your belief. If you are against abortion than step up andâŚ
1-pay for the kid once it is born
2-pay for the kids clothes
3-pay for their food
4-pay for their medical expenses- especially if the kid is born with a condition that is life long
5- pay for the kids education
I believe this should be the trade off. That those against abortion should be responsible for taking care of that kid. Wonder how many will be against abortion.
The biggest issue I have is people like you and gsc are morally against abortion but the moment that kid is born want nothing to do with it.
It amazes me that abortions can even stand up to the slightest of scrutiny.
Only in a depraved world can anyone defend the murder of the most defenseless human being.
Hereâs how you know abortion zealots are intellectual liars. If you took the zygote, blastocyst, embryo, or fetus out of the womb and into an incubator, NO ONE would support killing that beingâŚ.
The simple act of seeing it grow and develop would be overwhelming evidence of its right to live.
But because the child is veiled, we pretend itâs not alive. Absolutely disgusting.
GSC, itâs because the other side does not see it as life at conception. MurderâŚlol. If you say so. As I stated beforeâŚopen you wallet up and support that tadpole once it becomes something.
What amazing is you pro lifers want nothing to do with those kids once they are born. Tell me how that is morally right. The rights beliefs itâs ok for the death penalty but god forbid some women has an abortion. And I am for the death penalty.
I am pro choice. One I donât believe itâs a human at 1-2 months old no matter what you guys think and itâs an opinion anyways. Next, no one is about killing babies that is your bs excuse and scare tactic. No, I believe it is someone else choice to do with their body. I also canât tell someone I never met what to do with their bodies. Last if you are not going to financially invested then STFU because I could care less what you have to say. You guys are the same one the moment that mom needs food stamps or some other government aid you say well we canât have that.
I think the best option is to pay women for having less kids. You have 3-4 kids or more the less government aid you get. People have kids and itâs to get money from the government and they could care less about the kids.
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Then they are idiots.
If I kick a pregnant woman in the stomach and she miscarries. Did I commit murder?
I want an honest answer from you.
If you kick anyone in the stomach and they die is that murder. If the women gets into a fight knowing she is pregnant and the other person does not know she is, then I would not convict them of a crime. Self defense. Next, most women wonât know they are pregnant after a month.
I want to ask you something GSC - say that women has the kid. She has no money to support that kid. She canât be around the kid growing up. He gets into trouble. She canât control the kid. Now that kid goes and shoots up an entire school and murders 20-30 people. Would you rather have that scenario because it has happened.
Once again unless these pro lifers are willing to support that kid both emotionally and financially then they have no rights to tell another human being what to do with their life. Itâs your opinion that the kid at month or two is actually a life. Itâs is an opinion. Your definition of murder is bs.
I know most people are dug in one way or another here and you wonât change anyoneâs mind but the argument that an unwanted kid could grow up to be a murderer as a reason for abortion is faulty logic.
What if you aborted Mozart from the single mother that didnât want him? I could just as easily say that you robbed humanity of one of the greatest human beings ever.
The Left is all about science except when it comes to human life. Itâs really weird the lengths they go to absolve promiscuous behavior just because it feels good.
Not saying you are like that Elite 80 but I just think personal responsibility has to play a part in society.
And yes, the Right can do a better job of focusing on life after birth as well. I agree with you there.
Indiana, I think for myself. I donât need a Bible to tell me that itâs wrong to steal or cheat on my wife. There are things in life that are common sense. I am neither pro abortion or anti abortion. It is not my right in my opinion to choose whether or not someone I donât know make a decision for them. If someone does not want to have a kid for any reason itâs their decision. If someone thinks that it is morally wrong then let them have to deal with the consequences. We live in a free country and as long as you are not hurting anyone else then do as you want. I am not for abortion but I also donât consider it murder. That is my opinion and if you feel differently fine. What happens if someone finds out they are going to have a kid with a major disability- should they be forced to have the kid? I canât make that decision for someone. Please spare me that god wonât put something on their plate they canât handle. I have seen it first hand and those same people canât handle it.