NO ONE WANTS TO TOUCH THE FACT HE HAS ADDED MORE 5 STAR TALENT THEN ANY PREVIOUS COACH HUH?
PHILLIPS WALKED IN AT MAYBE 200 LBS AND HAD DONE NOTHING…
LEFT A FIRST ROUNDER…
NO ONE USES THE PORTAL BETTER THEN MANNY…
THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH THE STUGOTZS THEY CAN’T GIVE CREDIT AND CRY ABOUT ABSOLUTE NONSENSE…
That’s just not true…Teams are playing many…And the fact you are really counting “covid” freshmen…as freshmen…Knighton? Lol…Flagg? Lol…Harvey??? (Third year) That’s just a embarrassingly dirty tactic…Don’t do that Storm. It’s embarassing…and that’s an embarrassing graphic. you have 6…2nd and 3rd year players on that list…6!!!
If you don’t think teams have 10 first and 2nd year players(Harvey is 3rd year, but hell we’ll round up to try to make it fair for you) getting tons of snaps in college football then you simply don’t know what you are talking about
PHILLIPS WALKED IN AT MAYBE 200 LBS AND HAD DONE NOTHING…
Lol…False. The man was not 200 lbs…And flashed BIG TIME before his injuries at UCLA with 5 sacks and serious snaps in is first 10 games of TrueFrosh and soph seasons. They loved him and everyone knew he was going to be an NFLer, although the injuries started to cloud that. Obviously he and the staff did a good job after his arrival.
Let’s mix in a fact every now and then Storm.
I’LL GET TO THE REST BUT PHILLIPS WAS A SKINNY KID WHEN HE GOT HERE…
HE LOOKED LIKE A BASKETBALL PLAYER AT BEST…
THAT IS A GENEROUS 225
Last I checked 225-200 = 25 lbs.
Not enough to make up for the 1st half
NO ONE USES THE PORTAL BETTER THEN MANNY…
Ok but many also use it very well/as good…He and probably a handful of other coaches had an edge early but the rest of the country is catching up.
Eye roll…And yes it could be 225.
SO YOU ARE SAYING THE PICTURE IS 20 LBS OFF HIS UCLA PLAYING WEIGHT OF 245?
DID YOU READ MIAMI HAD HIM UP TO 265-270?
KEEP ARGUING NONSENSE…
All of this doesn’t matter anyways because you are straying off into a stupid, non-pertinent convo…But yes I’m saying it is possible and that he put on 30-40 lbs of muscle.
NO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT SKINNY ASS PICTURE WHEN HE LITERALLY STOPPED WORKING OUT IS 225 WHICH WOULD BE 25 LBS OFF HIS UCLA WEIGHT…
REGARDLESS UM HAD HIM 25 LBS ABOVE THAT…
SO WHO “DEVELOPED HIM” MORE?
He was playing a somewhat different position and who says IF he did add more than that…Which is a big if…That he wouldn’t have kept adding at UCLA?
Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.
SO ARE YOU SAYING HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A FIRST ROUND PICK REGARDLESS?
SO THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT ARGUMENT IS BULLSHIT?
AM I EMBARRASSING MYSELF?
SEEMS YOU ARE MAKING STORM’S ARGUMENT FOR STORM…
No I’m saying he developed well…Others have not been developed. And I’m saying I’m fairly neutral on him developing but it could be better…Either recruit or develop a fucking back 7…He has done good enough developing a DL although some of these young ends better start being developed or recruited better bc there’s a hole there. Like what Chantz Williams is showing, Harvey for a 3rd year player looks pretty mediocre, but even there I’m willing to give a pass as not every player is a star. Liebacker is a mess…Blades was ok…Ivey sucks…Stevenson is a pretty good player but jury is out…Bolden is ok and will probably be drafted…Hall is a huge disappointment…Carter and Frierson no matter what position they are are mild disappointments, Carter was an average or below average safety. Frierson and average ehhhh, showed promise at safety but hasn’t gotten any better at all and even regressed a little this year as a striker
So yes, they developed Phillips but you can make an argument the talent was there, but sure I’ll play and give in to you and say DL development has gone well. It’s not the only position on the field.
So for the record, Storm and all
-I’m neutral on Diaz’s “development”…Some of his positions (assistants??) have been better than others, we are still not physical enough despite what shirts’ off positions show us…Some improvement on lines but not enough (Right gets credit here too…We are more physical since the Golden years, but still not physical enough imo, that’s both recruiting and weight room/development.
-Neutral to slightly bullish on his program management (He has built depth art some positions and mismanaged his roster at others)
-Slightly bullish on his recruiting (I think he’s a very good salesman, and mediocre to slightly below as an evaluator/finder)
-DEFINITELY BEARISH on the rest of his coaching (motivation, discipline, preparation, game day XS and 0x, leading, etc…With the biggest problem there being leading and discipline, and in my opinion the best of those 5 question marks being game day XS and os, I’ve seen him adjust, but his defensive scheme is starting to look worse and worse after taking ACC by storm 1st couple years under Right)… and he is not good enough at any of this to now have to be his own DC. I don’t believe he coaches toughness and keeps his team focus and motivated week to week at all.
This all adds up to me thinking his ceiling and the program under him is mediocre…He needs monster coordinators. Lashlee imo is average to slightly above average. And Diaz himself would be the same now that some blueprint is out on him, but he is not a good enough DC to be his won COORDINATOR. So Miami needs Top 10 talent to be top 10 consistently and even then we may coach it down and simply be top borderline top 15 to 25. IMO he is not the answer, but we are capable of hiring just as bad or worse unfortuntately.
AND I WOULD STRONGLY WAGER WILLIAMS, WILLIAMS, KITCHENS, TAYLOR, CHEANEY, KNIGHTON, ETC ALSO DEVELOP…
AND IF YOU CAN RECRUIT LIKE THAT LARRY COKER, COACH O, CHIZIK, ETC CAN WIN LIKE THAT…
SCHEMERS DON’T WIN SHIT…
BECAUSE THEY DON’T EXIST…
And we would still need more
And also realize that '22 may be an outlier…More kids all over the country stayed close in class of class of 2021 due to covid. That’s a fact.
Cristobal is overrated as hell. Cristobal is the epitome of fool’s gold, because as we’ve seen time and time again, he only wins when he can outtalent everyone and even then, he finds ways to lose to teams he shouldn’t due to poor preparation and game management.
Guess what? Mario isn’t going to have Nike or Alabama money supporting his recruiting efforts and unlike a guy like Butch, I don’t see him as some elite talent evaluator. Would I take Mario? Yes, but I don’t think he’s worth the money he’s going to command. In order for Miami to get him, they are going to have to pay him Dabo money and there are far too many question marks for me to justify spending that kind of money for him. If I’m going to spend top dollar for a guy, I want a guy with as few question marks as possible. I’m spending that kind of money, I’m making a run at Urban Meyer or David Shaw. I’m making a run at a guy that I know that barring something awful happening WILL WIN.
My realistic list involves(In no particular order)
Jeff Hafley–Guy that has shown that he can build a culture quickly, ambitious, emphasizes fundamentals. This is the kind of guy that will not win the press conference but will have Miami playing quality ball quickly. Will maximize the talent on roster.
Mario Cristobal–The splash hire with tons of question marks. If you can get him at an affordable level, then that’s great. That said, you don’t spend elite money on him.
Dave Clawson–A guy that maximizes the talent on his roster, winning at a place that it is impossible to consistently win at. He’s been on my radar for years. Again, not a flashy hire, just a solid hire that has a low failure probability.
Mark Stoops–Probably the direction I would go if the top end guys say no. Tough, inspirational leader that doesn’t put up with nonsense. Has coached at Miami before, so he knows full well what to expect. Again, a guy with low failure probability, even at his worst he will have Miami playing decent ball.
Guys that I would interview, but unless they really wow me may come up just a bit short on this go around.
Kellen Moore–This guy is a star in the making. Young, dynamic playcaller that brings NFL experience. He played under Petersen at Boise so he has seen first hand how a quality program is managed. If you have to go for a coordinator, I’d reach out to him first.
Eric Bieniemy–Quality coach, the kind of guy that when he gets his shot will do well. The problem is that I think he’s holding out for an NFL job.
Not sure about this…Basically Andy Reed’s gopher
08, I Agree with most of what you said about Cristobal…And agree he may not be worth what we would have to pay. He interests me thought on a Stormfront level…Because as good as he recruits…Just imagine him in his own hometown?! Plus if I’m going to choose between two mediocre gamely guys…Give me the one whose teams are more physical and the one that cares about an offensive line. Not exactly a football genius, but a clear step up imo.
Love Clawson…Halfley doing well, can’t argue with it, in a perfect world I’d like to see a little more. Yes to Kellen Moore, has maximized Prescott who I once saw miss a Hail Mary wide from the middle of the field.
Like Stoops, not my top choice, but clear step up…Interesting that I believe (not sure on record or if I heard from someone who heard off the record) that he has recently said that a lot of SoFla kids he recruited have been primadonnas and won the soft side.
