…….and you know by which side……
The fact that these multiple states were coordinated at a federal level is a bombshell. It still looks like the “evidence” is just insider knowledge, but the facts may be public soon enough.
This is huge, and it is despicable.
That’s a lot of words and not a lot of statute or claim.
What’s the offense?
Can the Administration not protest its election and rally state representatives to its cause?
If so, show me where that type of action violates constitutional or Federal or even state law.
I’m confused at how you, 305, the moderate, jumped right on this.
I’ll wait to hear it.
Maybe there’s something there. To me it’s reads like a huge propaganda piece and kind of supports a lot of what Storm was saying.
Seems desperate.
Not if you’re @GardenStateCane. These are patriots fighting for our country! And by fighting for our country, he means (illegally) installing the guy he voted for.
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I’m pretty sure Storm (you’ll notice he’s not around anymore) never made mention of fake electors and fake certificates.
51- I must have missed it. Did you cite a criminal statute or clause in the Constitution that was violated?
You didn’t miss it, and I don’t know enough of the detail to point one out.
A little early for that.
But, if there was some conspiracy to overturn valid and legal election results, I’m sure there’s a crime for that.
So what are you outraged about?
This is a joke, right?
If Trump won and Biden and his campaign conspired to send fake electors to overturn valid results, you’d be outraged as well, yes?
Have an honest moment with yourself.
Is this a legal term of art?
What’s a “fake elector?”
Because this is the first time I’m hearing it.
Seems contrived in order to get the uninformed to get emotional.
Looks like it’s working.
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Watch this…
Above is a Google search for the term “fake elector” from 1/1/2000 to 12/31/2019
It’s such a non term that Google thinks I’m confused and suggests I want “fake electoral”
You catching on here 51.
You’ve been bamboozled again by CNN and the fake media oligarchy.
The thing about words is they only work when you read them.
“Under state law, I think clearly you have forgery of a public record, which is a 14-year offense, and election law forgery, which is a five-year offense,” Michigan Attorney general Dana Nessel, a Democrat, told MSNBC last week, about the fake certificates signed by pro-Trump electors.
Really? What did I say?
“It still looks like the “evidence” is just insider knowledge, but the facts may be public soon enough.”
Do you dispute what I said about facts maybe being available soon? WTF are people even allowed to talk about anymore with you? LMAO
Someone who isn’t an elector claiming to be an elector.
Now you’re just making excuses and deflecting.
You don’t even have the integrity to admit you’d be outraged if the tables were turned. And I know you would be because GWP would be all over this.
And you know what? I would be too. While I wouldn’t be happy about a trump win, if Biden, or Hillary, or anyone else conspired to overturn valid legal election, we should all be outraged.
Jesus. If Biden did this you’d be calling for the death penalty. Hell you and Storm want the Biden regime to all be prosecuted for voter fraud. You’ve been bitching about it for 14 months.
Omg-
I’m not talking about forgery lol. That’s a petty thing.
I’m talking about conspiracy with state law makers and this “fake electors” term.
The docs are a silly issue. They are being alleged as forgeries based on this “fake electors” term.
So it’s a contingent legal statement.
Now- can we get back to the material question at hand?
I’m going to ask the group again-
Where in the constitution or federal or state law is the term of art “fake electors” used…. Or where does the law codify the prohibition of “fake rectors”
Something that can be classified as a felony is a petty thing?
So because the constitution may not literally say “fake electors” means nothing bad happened?
The constitution says “high crimes and misdemeanors……” so by your logic if the specific verbaige isn’t mentioned verbatim in the constitution or in federal or state law, it isn’t breaking the law?
What is “disorderly conduct then” because “acting like an asshole and yelling and screaming at the cops and keeping them from doing their jobs” isn’t specifically in the state or federal list of laws, no law was broken?
The Jan 6 Committee will decide whether or not to refer possible criminal charges to the justice department, and they will decide whether or not to press those charges.
It is amazing the lengths you go to to defend and deflect this crap…….all while knowing full well you’d be calling for the gallows if this script were flipped.
It’s not even worth discussing with you.
No- it’s petty because it’s relying on a made up “fake electors” legal strategy that doesn’t exist. Therefor there is no forgery lol.
Ok- does it deal with the concept at all? I am unaware of it.
And you know this how?
Is every statute that can be broken in the constitution?
Based on your logic I can steal a $1,000 bike, and say I didn’t do anything wrong - because “Stealing a $1,000 Bike,” is not literally in a statute vs “grand theft.”
You may as well be a politician. I’ve never seen anyone to hypocritical.
Any “conspiracy” is still being investigated. If you’re asking if anybody’s been charged for this yet, the answer is no.
What is your hangup with the idea of this “term?”
Fake is a word. Electors are a real thing. It’s not a made-up thing just because you say so. Republicans in 2 of the 7 states were so unsettled by the strategy that they forced in language stipulating that they weren’t claiming to be real electors. You should go tell them it’s a fake term.
Tell me about it. He twists himself into such strange straw man arguments. No one else here is talking about the constitution. The majority of laws aren’t in the constitution.
Much better to take a “wait and see” approach in this case.
I’m just trying to understand why the White House and it’s agents, can’t talk to state officials about elections.
The White House had an opinion and they felt they had the evidence on their side. What forbids them from advocating to State Legislators to come to their aid?
Remember, the Constitution explicitly gives state legislators the power over all election decisions.
So where’s the conspiracy? Much of it was done in the light of day. In hearings aired in public that SNL tried to mock.
I’m struggling to see how any of this can be seen as a conspiracy or criminal. It’s just not there. It’s all propaganda to get the democrat base energized for mid terms. They, you and 51, need a bogey man.
My hand up with the term is the mat an “elector” is defined by whatever the particular state legislator defines it as.
There’s nothing “fake” about designating alternate electors and advocating state senators, who have the power to make anyone they deem an elector, to accept them over other electors.
Again- I repeat…. All of this was done in the sunshine. We debated it and discussed it for months. There is nothing novel. We even talked about alternate electors. What do you think all the talk about Pence on Jan 6 was about?
There’s nothing nefarious about this. What we’re witnessing is an aggrieved party that believed they had, and which I agree with, rights they could assert.
If these were issues, why weren’t they immediately investigated and prosecuted 12 months ago? Because it wasn’t politically expedient or valuable to do so back then. They need the media cover now to go into mid terms. Period. End of story.
You guys are being tally whacked yet again.