There Was (Attempted) Election Fraud

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You’re a fucking idiot…And you have known enough about any topic

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Really? What did I say?

This is huge, and it is despicable.

You said this, 305^^^

And you know it did, how 51?

Fucking cunt

Nothing outright. But if it can be proven that they were acting in bad faith, that there was no basis for their opinion, that they encouraged random people to act as electors and send fake documents in, or that they otherwise broke the law, then they should be brought to justice.

And I’m wondering why wouldn’t you want people brought to justice if they broke the law?

Let’s see what the investigation turns up and if, in fact, any laws (beyond forgery) were broken.

Yes there is. There’s an established process for settling on electors. Republicans tried to go around the system.

Nice catch.

305 pretends to play it down the middle but jumps at any news that might be bad for the R’s.

Then he again pretends that he’s a wait and see guy.

If I posted an article on how there is infighting in the Biden campaign or how there might be improprieties committed by the Biden family, he’s not nearly as zealous to jump on those and say stuff like “this is huge and despicable.”

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No offense 305, but you shouldn’t have wasted your time even asking this question. After all, GSC isn’t the only one here who have openly advocated for the illegal overthrow of the government in an effort to install a guy as president who has clearly tried to stay in power……illegally.

In Arizona, a person who knowingly forges or counterfeits returns of an election is guilty of a ‘class 3 felony,’ the minimum penalty for which is two and a half years in prison."

Broadly - 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2)
“corruptly … obstruct, influence, or impede” the electoral-vote count proceedings

**(c)**Whoever corruptly—

**(1)**alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or

(2)otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

In addition @GardenStateCane -

Since you’re looking for possible specific crimes - he’s being investigated for the whole GA thing. Now, at this stage IMO I still think prosecution isn’t unlikely. However, the crimes being thrown out there are:

-Criminal solicitation to commit election fraud

-intentional interference with performance of election duties

-Conspiracy to commit election fraud

Not that you’ll care. If the crimes don’t apply to the other side then these aren’t really crimes right?

Did any listen to the phone call when they released it way back when from Georgia?

Yep. “I just need to find 11,780 votes”

Trump was inferring that Raffensperger could be prosecuted if he didn’t help him.

All these accusations of the election being stolen with no evidence. Meanwhile you’ve got Trump on tape attempting to pressure people into overturning the results.

Lol…. How much you want to bet there’s no crime in Georgia.

I listened to the entire recording. He said nothing that was criminal in nature.

He even prefaced that statement to the SOS by saying something along the lines of “and we know there are many more but that’s all we need.”

Meaning, we should have won.

Unambiguous. Not criminal.

This is your flawed legal opinion

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Has the be hands down one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen in this cesspool.

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So you don’t have an answer?

It’s not a “catch,” it’s what I wrote in my single response.

I made 3 points:

  1. This is a huge revelation.

When this was previously posted about before, GSC’s reaction was “who cares what this one random group did.” But these allegations tie everything together. GSC no longer has that to fall back on, which is why his argument changed from “who are these people” to “where’s the crime.”

  1. There’s no evidence yet and we should get actual facts soon.

^ Self-explanatory

  1. This is despicable.

I do believe a plan/conspiracy to get all these battleground states to subvert the constitution is indeed despicable in any self-respecting democracy. But I will grant that we don’t have the full story yet.

Sure, just like I didn’t say Trump’s call with Ukraine was despicable, right? Wait and see goes both ways. In this case, compounding evidence is coming to light and it looks bad for Giuliani. But again, the evidence tying him to this isn’t yet public (and it’s possible it doesn’t exist or is a smear job).

Meaning he didn’t give a fuck about the election itself, or the will of the voters - he just wanted one more than Biden.

But you didn’t. So for Trump to be pressuring GA officials to cheat for him may be something he’s prosecuted for. Likely? No.

How so? This far your “legal opinion” is the one that’s flawed. No fraud (minus trump trying to cheat after the fact), yet you want the government overthrown?

I’ve never seen such a sore loser. Well, except for Trump. You can wish he won all you want. Wishing he won doesn’t mean fraud happened.