Yea- you’re right. This sort of stuff doesn’t happen. My bad
It must be fascinating to live your life…monsters under your bed, demons around every corner, everything is a conspiracy.
Proven out how?
Russia’s goals have been stated many times. We know they want/have wanted:
- Regime change in Kyiv (failed)
- Neutralize “Nazis” / Azov (succeeded)
- Independent Luhansk (succeeding)
- Independent Donetsk (push)
- Demilitarization of Ukraine (failed)
- De-NATOfication of Ukraine (failed)
- Land Corridor to Crimea (succeeded)
- Land Corridor to Moldova (failing)
- Blockade Black Sea (succeeded)
Now, if you want to get into ulterior motives, your prime suspect is retaining control of energy (vital gas fields in Donbas and off Black Sea coast). That, btw, equals a land grab.
Victory is a vague term.
Can Russia DESTROY Ukraine with missiles and nukes? YES.
Can Russia OCCUPY/DISPLACE 44 million Ukrainians? NO.
That has already been shown by their withdrawals and manpower/materiel issues.
Dayum
That moment you realize you are a sucker stooping for Putin in the Miamiverse.
And the Russians are so much in support of their dear leader.
And we should believe them why? Because Russia said them? Publicly?
Is that the way you think this works?
I’m pretty confident if Russia wanted the whole of Ukraine it would have it already. But you are free to believe that they have failed.
So let’s eat it all up like a sheep instead because it really makes us feel like we are saving the world instead.
Gullible fucking idiots will believe anything as long as it helps appease their tantrums.
The Nazi of Asovstal surrendered to the Red Army and are presently prisoners of war. Some of them will be tried for war crimes in Moscow charged with murder, torture, theft, even murdering Ukrainians and blaming the carnage on Russians.
Isn’t it reassuring to know that at least an estimated half of the $40 billion being sent to Ukraine will be stolen and the monies winding up in private off shore accounts. Most of the weapons never get to the front. They’re intercepted along the way. The weapons that do get to the front often cannot be used because they require training to operate them. The artillery sent to the Ukrainians are like pop guns. When they fire their first round, a Russian satellite pin points them, and a missle is sent to immobilize them. The Russian strategy is called the grind, meaning constant, interminable artillery barrages causing great numbers of casualties. In fact, most casualties of the war are from artillery barrages.
The Red Army liberated Mariupol which was focal point of Nazi influence. The Ukrainians were surrounded and subjected to intense “grinding.” Eventually, they faced the ultimatum of survival through surrender or complete annihilation. Now, we’re seeing another Mariupol scenario in Severodonetsk. The Russians have surrounded 12,000 Ukrainians now ensconced in the city using civilians as human shields. Russians of course will urge the evacuation of the hostages. Then, the grind will start. Severodonetsk will be reduced to rubble unless a mass surrender takes place. Look for as many as 25,000 Ukrainian fighters as well as Polish volunteers to surrender within the next two weeks.
The end of the war will come when the destruction of the European economy becomes unbearable. The sanctions are really taking their toll on Europe. For the first time in years, the Euro and dollar are trading on equal footing. In contrast, the Russian Ruble has risen to record heights due to the higher prices for Russian oil and raw materials. The lack of fertilizer due to the war is going to bring about famine with millions of immigrants pouring into Europe from Africa. This thread stresses the importance of Russia being defeated. For whom it it so important? Is it important for Ukraine soldiers to commit suicide against a vastly superior force? Is it important for Ukrainian farmers to be able to sow their crops? Or, is it important that the U.S. wins its proxy war against Russia spilling the blood of Ukrainians. 51 says we cannot appease Russia. That sounds like a criticism that the Ukrainians are not fighting hard enough to win America’s war. Rest assured, the only reason Zelensky is still in office is for reasons of surrender.
Recently, Victory in Europe Day transpired. There was almost no celebration either in America or in the Uk. Yet, in Russia, it was a day of great celebration and national pride. Why the difference? Much of WW2 was fought on the soil of the USSR. Most of the German casualties were at the hands of the Red Army. Approximately 400,000 Americans died in WW2 and 400,000 Brits. These are substantial losses, but pale before the 30 million Soviets that died fighting against the Nazis. We’ve forgotten our losses to some extent, but Russians cannot forget so easily. It was their nation that was raped by the Nazis. More than a million alone died in the siege of Lenigrad, starving to death, forced to eat the corpses of the dead. And, Stalingrad was the greatest land battle in human history.
It was during WW2 that Nazi groups grew up in Ukraine. After the end of the war these groups multiplied, and many Ukrainians became ardent supporters of far rightest groups which included Nazis. Small wonder that Russia invaded Ukraine fearful that the Nazi-influenced Ukrainian government would develop a strong army, persecute Russian minorities, and bring missiles into Ukraine pointed toward Moscow, all in violation of two treaties in which it was agreed Ukraine would remain a neutral nation. When Zelensky empowered an army of 100,000 to restore order in Donetsk, Putin had enough of diplomacy and sent in the Red Army to de-nazify, demilitarize, and liberate Russians who wound up Ukrainians after the break up of the Soviet Union.
It is time to end our proxy war against Russia. Russia has no designs on other East European nations other than one part of Russian speaking Moldova. If the war is not ended, Europe may well experience a depression, and things in the USA will continue to deteriorate under Biden incompetence. This war should never have happened. Prolonging it will create global havoc. We are perilously close to a nuclear show down.
What has Russia been successful at in this conflict?
The Nazis have killed 14,000 Russians in the Donbas since 2014. The Donbas people had to assemble their own militia to fight them. Most of the deaths come from artillery fire. Putin has nearly united the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine. I still don’t know whether he’ll proceed in taking Odessa. Odessa is 80 percent Russian but is strictly governed and defended by Ukrainians. Putin will not destroy a city of a million people. It’s really a great place, lots of fun, lots of Jews and Turks. It has one of the largest catacombs in the world. Very historical city, vibrant, best food in Russia, lots of great Russian wines that were 50 cents a bottle when I was there. Nearby Black Sea beaches. I could easily live on the Black Sea coast. I once planned on moving to Bulgaria not far from Varna. Wonderful seaside villages, and Bulgaria has fantastic fruits and fun people.
Putin will settle if the U.S. permits Ukraine to settle. Zelensky is just a U.S. puppet who has accrued a fortune in the hundreds of millions, nice pay for an actor. He’s presently one of the highest paid actors on earth. Zelensky is needed since they need a figure head to execute a surrender. Ukraine has a terrible rightest political problem and even has a national holiday honoring Bandera, a Ukrainian hero who was truly an anti-hero.
Unfortunately, MSM has done a great job of buoying Ukrainian victories, most of which never happened. Russia has over 100 military satellites. Defeating the Russian bear is an impossibility. Keep in mind, how MSM treated the Russian Hoax and the dirty tricks played on Trump. Journalism in America is just about dead. Same is true of historians on the left who redact history. It’s damn easy to be fooled by clever lies. I know over the years, they’ve tricked me plenty of times… If you want to really worry about human extinction, contemplate the India/Pakistan situation. A nuclear war means destruction of he earth due to cloud cover preventing the growing of food. Now, thanks to Biden, Iran gets THE bomb. The big question is whether Israel attacks Iran to destroy its nuclear development sites. Peace on earth is as big of a myth as religions that portend it.
We can judge the credibility based on their interests and their actions.
I’m pretty confident you don’t understand how unready Russia’s military is to do that.
As I noted, they’ve had successes and failures, and the war is still ongoing so the jury’s out on most of it. That said, they very obviously failed to achieve a fait accompli as they did in Crimea, and they very obviously underestimated the world response to their invasion.
Another way to prove this statement is a joke is this:
Russia OBVIOUSLY wanted to conquer Mariupol. I believe even you will not deny this. They OBVIOUSLY wanted to capture/neutralize Azov. not only did they state that as part of their denazification, but all their rhetoric has been aimed that way.
Tell me, GSC, that Russia did NOT want to conquer Mariupol and capture Azov, and I will show you a liar.
Guess what. It took them 3 MONTHS!!! to do it. And you think they could have capped the entire country by now? That’s pure delusion.
And we’re all confident you are the board leader in Russian military understandermentedness
Thanks, skeeter, means a lot
I see Bikki typing…might as well just check the last message from Russian State TV and hit insert here for Bikks. Total shill for our enemy
I have to commend 305 on trying to stay abreast of what is happening in Ukraine. 305 does exhibit some talent, especially in the sphere of recommending excellent California wines. Nobody in the world, not even the French, produce wines as fine as those coming the the Land of Fruits and Nuts (especially nuts) AKA California. Interestingly, I love trivia, the name origen of California comes from the chivalric novels of Amadis de Gaula by Garci Ordonez Montalvo. I mention this because it was the favorite story of Alonso Quijano who driven mad imagined himself to be Don Quijote de la Mancha. If my memory serves me right, Califia was a queen of a paradise island located in the New World. In many ways, California is a paradise of unexcelled beauty.
305 unfortunately believes MSM accounts of what transpires in Ukraine. I fear he like Alonso Quijano has a distorted knowledge of what is transpiring in Ukraine. Ukraine has already been defeated. The Red Army is not a bumkin army. It is a well-managed land army that is grinding away al resistance while preserving as much infrastructure as possible. The war cannot last too much longer, and it is being unnecessarily prolonged by Biden and our morons in the state department. To save Europe, the war in Ukraine must be foreclosed.
It wouldn’t have occurred at all under Trump. The establishment American oligarchs, are now united in the Democratic Party and they distrust Donald Trump. Trump committed the heresy of questioning the sanctity of the American empire. Trump derided the invasion of Iraq as a “big, fat mistake.” He promised “to keep us out of endless war.” Trump was repeatedly questioned about his relationship with Vladimir Putin. When Putin was labeled “a killer” by one interviewer, Trump replied. “There are a lot of killers,” Trump continued:. “You think our country’s so innocent?” Trump dared to speak a truth that was to be forever unspoken, that American militarists had sold out the American people. $40 billion dollars for Ukraine?
Even leftist guru Noam Chomsky took some heat for pointing out, correctly I think, that Trump is the “one statesman” who has laid out a “sensible” proposition to resolve the Russia-Ukraine crisis. The proposed solution included “facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them and moving toward establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe…in which there are no military alliances but just mutual accommodation.”
It is curious that I find myself agreeing with Chomsky. The days of NATO need to be ended, and Russia needs to be drawn in closer to its European counterparts. Russians identify as Europeans not as a nation within the Chinese/Asian sphere of influence.
I don’t watch MSM and have based the majority of my reports on OSINT.
A broken record again… You said they no longer had an army TWO MONTHS AGO. Who, pray tell, has been giving Russian conscripts so much trouble in the meantime then?
The problem everyone here sees is that bikki, like Alonso Quijano, has distorted knowledge due to believing whole hog the RSM (Russian State Media).
And I hate to give too much praise, but the MSM is better than the RSM 8 days of the week.
This is where you prove yourself ignorant. This can last YEARS. I personally don’t believe it will stretch that long, but it can. Ukraine is a hell of a lot more capable than 90s Afghanistan.
Thankfully, the West sees through Putin’s impotent power grab, and NATO is strengthening more than they ever have in my lifetime.
Or perhaps it’s just their exfil?
To each their own I presume.
Just like saying “agree to disagree”
I suppose that’s one way to avoid backing up your baseless statements.