The death of the obama mafia has begun

He’ll duck right here. Or he’ll give an example……which I hope he does. I can’t wait.

1824- Andrew Jackson and the contested election.

1876 Rutherford B Hayes

Both elections contested. Both involved Vice Presidents exercising their privilege in counting, or not counting ballots and recognizing delegates.

1876 there was decided by a bargain, but this blurb is fitting.

The Constitution stipulates that the electoral votes be directed to the President of the Senate who was Republican Thomas W. Ferry. Although Republicans argued that he had the right to decide which votes to count, Democrats disagreed and argued that the Democratic majority in Congress should decide. A compromise was reached, and on January 29, 1877, the Electoral Commission Act established a commission of five senators (three Republicans, two Democrats), five representatives (three Democrats, two Republicans), and five Supreme Court justices (two Republicans, two Democrats, and one independent) to decide which votes to count and resolve the dispute. However, the independent Supreme Court justice refused to serve on the commission and was replaced by a Republican justice.

There was also the election of 1796 which was the motivation for the 12 amendment.

You guys act like this is novel. It’s not.

LOL.

None of what you posted fits today.

And one example involves literal bribery.

You continue making an ass out of yourself.

It absolutely does. Each of these situations were contested elections. Each of them had “Presidents of the Senate” count or discount delegates”

Again- you just don’t understand the situation.

He never does…And then he parades around and tells you he curb stomped you and then deletes your posts. Total cunt.

I absolutely understand the situation. And in all situations, the VP does not have the power to unilaterally just declare the the votes from certain states don’t count.

Otherwise, he would have done it. Yes?

What crime is it again?

Wrong!

The campaign featured Vice President Adams of the Federalist Party and former Secretary of State Jefferson of what was called the Republican Party and quickly descended into mudslinging between their supporters. (Back then, it wasn’t proper for candidates to campaign directly for office, but Aaron Burr, Jefferson’s running mate, campaigned anyway.)

On October 19, 1796, a mysterious editorial from a writer named Phocion appeared in the Gazette of the United States, a popular Federalist newspaper in Philadelphia. Phocion said, in terms understood by most readers, that presidential candidate Jefferson was having an affair with one of his female slaves. Phocion also accused Jefferson of running away from British troops during the Revolution, unlike his brave friend Alexander Hamilton. Phocion also paid compliment after compliment to Adams and claimed Jefferson would emancipate all slaves if he were elected president.

In reality, Phocion was Alexander Hamilton.

Jefferson’s folks had been using their own strong campaign tactics in the fight against Adams. Adams was accused of wanting to be a king and starting a dynasty by having his son succeed him as President. He was also accused of being overweight and given the nickname “His Rotundity.”

In addition to the insults, there was high drama inside the Federalist camp, where Hamilton secretly worked to have Adams’ running mate, Thomas Pinckney of South Carolina, win the election by getting southern Federalists to withhold their votes for Adams. In the original election system set up in 1787, each elector cast two votes, and the top two candidates became president and vice president. Six states had direct popular elections, but 10 others let state legislatures choose the electors. That would have made Pinckney the president and Adams the vice president, if several Federalists voted for Pinckney and another candidate, like Samuel Adams.

Instead, Hamilton’s secret was discovered in New England, a region that had many more Federalists. Those electors refused to cast their second vote for Pinckney. The result was that Adams became president and his former-friend-turned-rival, Jefferson, became vice president. Adams defeated Jefferson by three electoral votes and he gained an electoral majority by just one vote. Adams then wound up blaming Hamilton and Jefferson for his close victory, and he particularly targeted Hamilton for plotting Adams’ near-defeat.

https://constitutioncenter.org/amp/blog/on-this-day-the-first-bitter-contested-presidential-election-takes-place

Under your theory- Hamilton should have been thrown in jail. Locked up for treason.

Come on dude. Just stop.

ROCKO 51 IS IN COMPLETE PANIC MODE BECAUSE HE LIKE MANY OF THE OTHER STUGOTZS (IT IS HITTING THE SPORTS WORLD NOW) CAN’T HIDE FROM WHAT IS HAPPENING…

NOTICE THE STUGOTZS THAT ARE LEFT…

THEY DON’T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT EITHER…

That’s great.

It also has nothing to do with Trump losing by 7 million votes in addition to zero evidence of whose spread fraud. Trump’s own people said so.

You wasted your time. You also haven’t answered my question. Do you believe Pence had the authority to unilaterally refuse votes from certain states? If you do, why didn’t he do it?

I’m in celebration mode Storm. I’ll be popping the bubbly in 10 days……grow a pair and honor the bet you begged us to agree to.

Tickey tockey….

If anyone wants to keep up with the exact amount of time left, please refer to my Signature. You will find the information there.

How’s the math cunt?

How’s that toilet wine tastin? :rofl:

Cornball shit ^^^

By the way - good job on running and hiding from my questions in this thread about Pence. Not that I’m shocked.

Answered em cunt…No I didn’t see a concerted effort.

Next

You know your mother’s a fuckin whore right? You understand this correct?

Yes. How much clearer do I have to be.

Hamilton did it and he wasn’t vp. He “obstructed Congress right?”

Later in 1876, the Republicans argued the VP has that right and the democrats must have believed them because instead of fighting against an illegal act (according to you) they struck a bargain! They gave up the seat and got something for it. Because most likely they knew they’d lose the legal battle.

The VP, who is the President of the Senate, has the right to suspend the count, refuse delegates, etc….

That wasn’t my entire question. Do you believe Pence had the power to deny electoral votes from certain states on 1/6?

Then why didn’t Pence do it?