Lol…He offers none it does
Nice cop out cunt
Never makes it 1 sentence without lying. Tragedy of a human life.
Shit is wild af
What was the part that I missed?
That’s a safe bet. I don’t even know what a race & ethnicity course is. Perhaps I haven’t been privileged enough to have the opportunity.
So have any of said experts displayed examples that you have perused, or you just take their word on blind faith?
First you need to prove to me YOU’RE not racist, right? Is that how this works? Do we start with presumptions of racism without proof?
And the SAT was created specifically to enable lower classes access to higher education (but you don’t care).
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Dude the literature is there. Find me research that says it doesn’t exist and I’ll read it.
And of course, we all have biases.
Any progressive idiot can write about anything nowadays and these world savers will eat it up
Comedy Central
Citing environmental reasons for lack of intellectual ability is nothing more than making excuses for wont of desired outcomes. .Why do Asians who barely speak the language score higher than native speakers of other races. Asians really puncture the arguments of liberals who try to diminish the effect of inheritance. Culture free portions of IQ tests show African Americans scoring lower on the symbolic sections than on sections that employ language. IQ scores have been standardized worldwide. They are pan-cultural, and the results have incredible validity and reliability. Tired of reading liberal rubbish on this subject. Humans are every bit animals who share the planet with other animals.
Standardized testing is one of the smartest things educators do, and teacher should always be teaching for the test, because the test is evidence that learning has taken place. If not teaching for the test, what is the goal of teaching? Where is the concept of mastery? How do you prepare lessons with just liberal willy nilly ephemeral goals
I have written earlier of having over 40 students in a high school chemistry course. Half of the students were African American. I failed all African American students but one who turned out my best student in the class. The 19 I failed could not perform basic arithmetic computations much less ratio and proportion problems relating to Gas Laws, one of the first topics in beginning chemistry. This class should never have happened. Achievement test score analysis should have prevented its creation. In high level courses, students must be grouped by ability. At the semester, my 19 failing students were transferred into courses in which they could find success. Those that remained in the class were subjected to learning a year of chemistry in a semester. At the end of the year, I administered an achievement test and a third of the students exhibited distinctive mastery of first year chemistry.
This line was amazing. Kudos 305
How come these racist exams don’t affect Asians, Indians, or actual Africans that emigrate? How did they isolate it down so much to affect only 1 or 2 groups?
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C41&q=racism+in+standardized+testing&btnG=
Above is the results for a broad search on Google scholar as it relates to standardized testing and racism
I’ve ran multiple queries trying to find the data showing that standardized testing is not full of systemic racism. Can’t find anything.
Admittedly, Google could be filtering it out on my preferences I suppose. I could also not be placing in the appropriate wording to get results.
You see, I can be funny! It’s not as easy to notice when we’re on opposite sides.
I already did.
https://senate.universityofcalifornia.edu/_files/committees/sttf/sttf-report.pdf
Q: I have heard that the SAT and tests in general are racially biased. Is this true, and if so what is UC going to do about it?
The Task Force takes this possibility seriously. The definition of bias in a test question that psychometricians use is, roughly speaking, that two groups perform systematically differently on the given question even though the members of the two groups have the same underlying achievement level.For example, suppose that a question on a math test assumed that students had knowledge of how to play a sport, say football. If a math question could be understood only if the student understood the sport that was used for the premise of the question, and the two groups had different knowledge of how that sport worked, this would lead to one group systematically underperforming the other even if on average the two groups had the same level of ability with regards to the given mathematical skill.
Our review of the existing literature suggests that racial bias in the SAT, at least the version of the SAT in place in 1999, is, at most, a minimal problem. A key paper, by Santelices and Wilson (2010) reviews the earlier work in the field and concludes that there is no evidence of SAT racial bias in the math test but that there is mixed evidence for black/white differences on the verbal test.123 The authors then conduct
updated analyses that take into account some criticisms that had emerged of the earlier work. They confirm that the math test is not biased for either of two racial comparisons. Similarly, they conduct analyses of bias on the SAT verbal test and find no evidence of bias in Latino-white comparisons. They find evidence of bias in African-American-white comparisons on the SAT verbal test, but depending on
the difficulty of the question, the direction of the bias reverses, with the test biased in favor of whites for easier questions and in favor of African-Americans for more difficult questions.So, in three of four cases (math for both racial/ethnic comparisons and verbal for Latino/white comparisons) no evidence of racial bias emerges. In the fourth case, black/white comparison on the SAT verbal test, some evidence of bias exists, but the bias is against white students on some questions against black students in other cases. Furthermore, our analysis of the results suggest that for this one, the effects
are far too small to explain much of the SAT gap in test scores between black and white students.
Later:
The numbers of disadvantaged students who would lose guaranteed admission if UC dropped SAT tests is surprisingly large. In 2018, about one quarter of low-income, first-generation and underrepresented minorities who were guaranteed admission to UC earned this guarantee solely by virtue of their SAT scores. African-American and Native American students would be especially hurt by dropping the
SAT: among the students guaranteed admission to UC, 40% of African-Americans and 47% of Native Americans won their guarantee because of their SAT scores.
Did this fucking idiot really type this? Or is this sarcasm?
I already said you haven’t on this. For instance, the actual study they reference, if you were to read it from Santelices and Wilson (2010):
Furthermore, their work examines heavily, the 2003 Study from Freedles work that basically shows it exists and the manufacturers of the SAT are not correcting for it and he offers suggestions on how to do it.
By replicating Freedle’s methodology with a more recent SAT dataset and by addressing some of the technical criticisms from ETS, Santelices and Wilson confirm that SAT items do function differently for the African American and White subgroups in the verbal test and argue that the testing industry has an obligation to study this phenomenon.
I won’t even concede on the math side, but admittedly my grounds are crumbling.
How come the earth exists in the universe?
Because that is how the data pans out? Would you like them to falsify it? Reasons are abound including but not limited to:
Social and racial stratifications
Income/poverty (socio economic)
Individual achievement
Educational attainment (self and family)
“Stereo Type Threat”
Etc
Etc
Etc
The part that is funny to me ITT is that the GAP DOES EXIST.
DJ, how is this different from what I posted. Read the answer again and this verbal inbalance is addressed. 1) It’s not racist for Latinos. And 2) the bias found in the verbal section sometimes benefits whites and sometimes benefits blacks.
Now, I’m not saying we should attempt to clean up tests and stamp out flawed questions, but I don’t see the problem so many people complain about here.
Go read the study itself and not the one you have posted. The study you posted is biased as I pointed out a bunch of posts above.
Why is it only the “African American?”
So, I’m jumping in on the back end of this and without reading a ton. BUT, let’s say its all true - standardized testing is racially biased towards low income black people. It’s not inherent in the process that it’s their blood, right? That would be racist in itself at its core. So, from a current cultural perspective, being that American blacks have a larger portion of their population in or around the poverty line. Even if we acknowledge this is because this or that racist incident or decision in the past…red line laws, whatever…is the current course in attempting to address the alleged “systemic racism” built into the test working? Does lower a bar help? Does rewording help and not detract from other’s testing? Is all of this or literally any of it working to address the gap of performance between the black population in the US and everyone else?
So, the figures show the black population has the lowest combined SAT scores as a whole.
As I’ve asked before…does welfare, affirmative action, attempted compensatory design for standardized testing, etc…does any of it show to have worked even in the slightest?
I don’t think so. I think it might have drive more animosity towards the black community than it aided in raising up people from the black community. So, I can’t argue when right wingers say there isn’t a father in the vast majority of the households and that is the primary problem for literally everything, not systemic racism or anything else. When 67% do not have a father, or more…how can anyone argue that part? It’s so remarkably prevalent, too! The attitude, I mean…I saw the other day a CNN story, something about a black guy cheating on his wife and the CNN announcer laughed and said something about having to have a “side chick.” This is the fucking CNN announcer, with a $4000 suit and a Harvard education. WTF? Nobody said a word.
Also, with everything that has happened since Brown vs Board of Education…the statistics only appear to have gone downward. At some point, the left…me included, has to say…maybe we need to stop catering and start adhering to the standard for everyone. We have a ton of black poverty. We subsidize it and financially encourage it. We have affirmative action, which by definition, allows a lower performing person access to the benefits of a higher performing person based upon race.
At some point, isn’t it on all of us to say “enough, do it or don’t but its on you, now”?
Recently, my wife and I got into a conversation about black leaders or the lack thereof. From my perspective, the leaders of the black community for decades have been huckster race baiters who benefit themselves much more than any community. Jesse Jackson, Jesse Jackson Jr and Al Sharpton are straight up con artists. Also, they are all evangelical preachers…which is the other caveat. Rap music, which I am a fan of from back in the day, and huckster preachers have been the predominant influence on the black community since the 80s. Outside of that, what else has been? Who else has been? Sounds to me like they tore off one chain only to put another on themselves, this one has fake diamonds though and a matching grill.
I’m venting, which usually means I need to sit down and rethink myself. My reactionary tendencies are present and I am aware of them, for sure. But, food for thought…
I get exhausted spending decades defending this or that within the black community only to have nothing change, to go to 7/11 and have a dude pull up with his music at full blast, go inside and leave his car on blaring music with nobody in it, next to me. I get annoyed at going to Target to see 4 dudes with their ass hanging out of their jeans and tattoos all over their faces. I know these are egocentric and not everyone’s experiences but there is only 1 race that does this as far as I can see.
I don’t negate racism. I don’t negate a history of said racism. I don’t argue any of it, but this isn’t working. Catering and lowering the bar isn’t working. Affirmative action didn’t work. Welfare didn’t work. BLM just stole from black people just like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton do. At some point, you just get exhausted.
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Easy, and I do it all the time
I’ve got nothing on it. I just can’t defend that one. What are your thoughts?
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