Fake ass racism police alert
One sick cult
You want examples but you don’t want me give you research. I’m at a loss. Let’s try again with your State from some longitudinal data on the subject from 1994-2016
Direct PDF Link
Method biases
Cultural biases
Teacher biases
The stuff I’ve already alluded to ITT which you either didn’t read or sumarrily dismissed.
Over 75% of colleges will not require standsrdized testing.
What sucks about COVID, for this argument, is that colleges were already moving in this direction at a rapid clip before hand. COVID makes it seem like standsrdized testing was on the way out temporarily awhile COVID is here.
Doesn’t mean it’s the right decision… Means they are caving into “woke” pressure and bitch ass racism police like yourself
There is not one bit of proof in those charts that they are “racist”…You would have to use one fucked up, progressive fairy-tale laden definition of “racism” to arrive at that conclusion
I did read some. The NGLC article, for example, says standardized testing is racist because Latinx and black students feel “anxious” about getting a bad score on the test and end up bombing the tests. I’m still wondering how the hell that’s racism!!!
In your article:
Limited testing availability for both the ACT and SAT in 2020, and the decision to not move forward with at-home testing, has forced many colleges and universities across the US to suspend the requirement for SAT or ACT scores as part of the admissions process.
Much of this is covid based and not relevant to the conversation.
But again, I’m aware of the belief that standardized testing has a racial bias. I posted about the study that MIT relied on to put the tests back. This was a school that did it both ways and decided it was better with testing.
For the record, I’m not an SAT advocate or anything. I’m not even sure if they serve a purpose in liberal arts degrees. I’m just saying I don’t think they’re racist.
So why are Asian students doing so well in the face of cultural and other biases? Isn’t the assertion that standardized tests are done to benefit white people? Where did the evil plan go wrong with Asians?
Btw, here’s the direct pdf link to the study I mentioned.
https://senate.universityofcalifornia.edu/_files/committees/sttf/sttf-report.pdf
Funny enough, it is a NEWER study done by the UC schools, which is the same place your study came from. So maybe they’re changing their mind?
Are you kidding? Reread the article then.
Same reason assimilation occurs easier for them.
Now this is brilliant!
Need time to digest. SBAC, their dissection of, is interesting. SBAC sounds like a pretty amazing attempt to right some standardized testing wrongs. While they do put forth some phenomenal arguments, they come off biased to me. I’m not saying that is wrong, because they could be right. I’d just like to hear them quantify benefits of SBAC and not be all in on the NO.
Here’s where I’m at with more to come but this:
Tells me a lot about racism within standardized testing. They admit it improves diversity and retention, some, but then downplay it. That it exists is all that matters for our conversation.
Even though Silversen et al lesson the blow to saboe and terrizi, they still admit ( tacitly) that racism exists in standardized testing.
Now, if I may? I’d like you to show me proof that racism DOESN’T exist in standardized testing.
Good read showing a very unbiased perspective that while racism exists in standardized testing, scraping the tests might not be the best solution.
Lol…Ya 305ive reread the article with your secret progressive decoder glasses on!
Especially the authentic “racism police” tinted pair.
These kinds of responses don’t help your position. If you can’t explain something, you can’t convince others to believe it.
Anxiety is not racial bias. Everyone has anxiety taking the SATs and big tests.
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Is there a reason somewhere in invisible ink?
Wrong and then right. They specifically say “do NOT find an increase in diversity” but then they say “limited evidence” about “applicant volume” and “retention,” neither of which are diversity, which again, they said they didn’t find.
So no, there was no tacit admission of racism.
Remember here that MIT is saying standardized tests actually IMPROVE diversity.
Again, you’re not doing a whole lot of talking about your underlying reasoning. This is why we’re just throwing links at each other instead of having an actual debate.
If you are interested in debate, we can discuss that yes, people of a higher class with more financial means will have a greater ability to train up for the tests. Yes, news flash, an immovable truth of the world is true for standardized testing as well: people with more advantage have more advantages. We cannot change this.
But arguments against the SAT ignore that college admissions need to pay attention to SOMETHING to sort through applicants. Membership in extracurriculars, GPA, attendance, etc. could all be similarly charged with racial bias.
Which again, is exactly what this UC study is saying. Relying on GPA is flawed and a poor indicator of academic success, while the SATs are much better overall.
I read it. Funny quote in that article:
The average scores for Black (454) and Latino or Hispanic students (478) are significantly lower than those of white (547) and Asian students (632).
Honest question. Does this mean the SATs are racist against white people too?
it is also clear that many fewer Black and Latino or Hispanic students are college ready, especially in math.
So after grumping about racial inequity, Brookings finally admits that these students are not college ready and that is why they are getting lower scores?
I mean, think about it, we are talking about the math section now. There are no cultural biases here. This is math. You’re suggesting not considering a student’s math score toward college admission in a math field?
Go ahead, DJ, and tell me what college admission system has more racial equity than a blind test of ability? The only answer coming to mind is a random lottery where ability and history is not considered at all.
He’s progressive…He wants to remove Math from the world in the name of “equality” or some shit
Equity not Equality.
Get your terms straight!
That’s not their claim tho. You are oversimplifying. I actually 120% agree with them and the literature on the subject supports this position. It isn’t a fantastic fairy tale.
Google is your friend.
You’ve obv never had a race and ethnicity course, I take it?
I’m not sure what you want. My opinion? That’s not rationale nor appropriate. We get enough made up BS from the likes of GSClown and Axis Sally. I refuse to argue like that where I pretend to make up knowledge I’m not an expert in. I’ll rely on the experts or people who study this shit for a living.
I’ll ask you again SHOW ME PROOF THAT RACISM DOESNT EXIST IN STANDARDIZED TESTING.
I’ve showed you where the ontology of the subject came from eugenist (lol) which you don’t care, I’ve pointed out reasons on why it is, and I’ve show you research that backs it up. Yet you have not given me 1 shred of counter opinion on the matter (the work you have pointed to DOES not state that racism doesn’t exist in standardized testing).
Nope, I’m old. That wouldn’t have flown back then in Texas.
I was in the 1992 race riot in Dallas though. That sucked
Fantastic course.
Immigration periods, assimilation of differing groups and why some groups assimilate and others don’t, so on and so forth.
There is no racism in standardized testing. Each individual has the same opportunity and subjected t o the same examination. There is no more racism in standardized tests than in track and field events. Unfortunately, intelligence is heritable just as thoroughbred breeding lines depend on inherited characteristics. Is it credible to believe that eugenics work with animals save for humans? There is political stigma attached to eugenics likely Third Reich in origin that compels us politically to reject genetic science.
Everything in our world is evaluated. Human decisions are based on judgment, some things more appealing than others. Humans discriminate whenever they must make choices. All humans are obviously not the same. All humans do not have the same talents. Many human characteristics are heritable. Human talent can be measured and compared through standardized testing. Results can be correlated for example with results of achievement in academic fields. Testing creates probability standards which are accurate by measure of validity studies.
The nature versus nurture controversy has been a huge twentieth century argument, but the weight of evidence on the side of nature has prevailed. Making race the critical factor inhibits science. If humans have equal constitutional rights, their race should be immaterial.
In previous posts, I alluded to the best student I’ve ever taught. Born in the U.S. his parents emigrated from India. His father was an M.D. at the Navy Hospital. His mother was a PhD research scientist at Evonik-Degussa in Mobile. This student was a mathematical prodigy who had taken every graduate course in math available through our local university before being graduated from high school. He of course was valedictorian of his class. He achieved perfect SAT scores and today is close to being a billionaire. However, this student had two brothers, and what do you know. They too were valedictorians and went to Harvard. Do you suppose that it was the miraculous teaching skill of bikki228 and his colleagues that account for this family’s achievement or could it possibly be a case of inheritance?
AKA Aesop’s fables…AKA where he got his esteemed racism police degree at.
Who really gives a fuck about the fallacies this idiot learned in this course?