FSU got screwed

Stork, we could be very good next year if we get a QB that can both pass and run the football. FSU had that player for the better part of the season, and when it was third and long, Jordan Travis was able to improvise using his mobility to convert a lot of doubtful 3rd downs. When Travis went down, FSU was a far inferior team. After being gut-punched by the NCAA, FSU just had to be demoralized.

We need a QB who can improvise since our coaching of QBs blows. Great plays in football are the result of surprises. A deft QB can hide the ball and fool defenders often creating a chunk play. QBs have to be taught how to handle the ball. Even though mobile QBs are best in the college game even slow plodders, guys like Archie Manning can manage a game that keeps the defense guessing.

Next year, I predict Miami’s defense is going to be unusually strong. Mario has done a sensational recruiting job with linemen, something we haven’t seen for several decades lately. I further predict that one of the defensive linemen is going to be an incarnation of Jerome Brown or Russell Maryland. This kid Zaquan is an incredible talent. He’s my favorite recruit followed closely by Artavius Jones whose strength coming in as a freshman is well within the Young Godzilla category.

What Miami needs is someone like Art Briles to straighten out the offense. I don’t no where Briles is along the redemption continuum, but he or someone with his offensive mind would be a great hire. Dawson comes from the Leach coaching tree which I like; I wonder whether Mario is holding him back. What I haven’t seen in the last twenty years at UM is a team that is exquisitely poised in its offensive execution. We need someone under center not named Jacurri or Emory.

Don’t get me wrong. I despise FSU. But they got screwed by the bully of SEC ESPN to deny them a shot. It’s happened to us and for once I was pulling for FSU (against SEC).

New QB or not, I have Miami at 7-5 or possibly 8-4 next year.

7-5 in 2024 would be worse than 5-7 in 2022. Next years schedule is ridiculously easy.

I would absolutely agree with you under normal circumstances and talking about normal teams. Unfortunately we are talking about Miami, which makes it pretty much a given that a ridiculously easy schedule will be anything but that…:pray:

Fsu has two players heading to the game opt out. I went to the game and their entire special teams unit was walk ons.

Miami will follow suit as will Clemson and UNC. The acc is dead. Those who run it just don’t know it yet. Espn gave the acc their network and nothing they promised was followed through on. The deal is awful for everyone. Your AD is 100 percent on board to what fsu is doing.

Where do you think Miami would thrive? If not return to a possible national champion contender?

I can’t help but think that mega-conferences of 20 teams will eat their own. The eventual champion every year would have three losses, if not more. Maybe this is a good thing, who knows.

For those who think that the SEC Committee got it wrong…ha!!

23, 23 Noles opted out, 9 for the draft and 14 for the portal. Go and listen to what Kirby said at the press conference at the end of the game. Even HE knew that game was won before they even stepped onto the field. FSU didn’t stand a chance and anyone with any logic can see why the Noles lost. And, I agree with Kirby, the NCAA better find out what it wants going forward because more and more kids will have less and less loyalty to their school and to each other going forward.

And don’t kid yourselves…the SEC Committee had already chosen Alabama over FSU but they could hide behind the Travis injury…

I say, “Bring Back The BIG EAST!!!”

I love Miami like most here, but being honest it really doesn’t matter where Miami might go, being a national title contender isn’t going to happen. I wish more than anything they could become great again but they won’t…the landscape for college football has changed and this school will remain as a mid tier team for the foreseeable future.

Do you blame them? I don’t. Why stay for a bullshit bowl and risk injury?

I guess my response to this would be, does a player’s obligation end to a team when they’re no longer a national title contender? If you opt out at that first opportunity, is a player within his right to leave once his team is 1-3 on the year? Just pack up and quit, right? I mean, why run the risk of getting hurt?

See where I’m going here? Whether you’re 13-0 and hosed by a committee or whether you just have a bad September, I don’t think a player is done with his “commitment” to his team. But maybe I’m wrong and better be careful how I use a word like commitment because that word on the field and in the arena is a lot like “sportsmanship”. The word exists, yes but what it embodies?..not so much any more.

Come on! What about sticking it out when times are tough? So you’re 1-3. Do you put yourself above team? Why not try to finish 9-3? Why not try to cap a nice season with a bowl win with everyone focused on the prize if you’re someone like Ohio State and finish 12-1? It’s just nuts to me that they lost to Missou in the manner they did. Like FSU, just a shell of the team that played the 1st 12 games.

The world is just different now, I guess. And to me, not in a good way. Another example of $$ ruining everything.

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I get the point of using an extrapolated absurdium idea to drive the point BUT

Missing a meaningless bowl game is rational. Quitting after 2/3/4 games would be seen by pro scouts as a huge red flag.

Exactly ^.

The NFL doesn’t want to see a quitter who stops playing when the going gets tough.

They don’t mind a player sitting out a bowl game to preserve his health for the NFL. Hell, the NFL probably tells the kids to sit out.

I have issues with the fsu players sitting out. They were unbeaten and could have finished off one of the best seasons in school history. What’s next a team in week 6-7 is out of the playoff race and players opt out of the rest of the season. Where does it end.

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I don’t blame them. It’s their way to protest. I support them.

But this speaks to point of debate here. “The NFL doesn’t want to see a quitter” only makes sense if the “student-athlete” treats playing for college as a stepping stone (minor leagues). As fans, we root for the college team and by extension the players. The team doesn’t “betray” the fan with opt-outs, the players do. Hence fan resentment directed at players. If you are a lifelong fan of say Wisconsin why do you care about what the NFL wants?

Thus we have the situation with bowl game opt-outs and having to watch an inferior product on the field. I’d be very curious to see a long term study done of how many early opt-outs actually (a) make the NFL at all as well as (b) eke out a “career” (say 3-4 years minimum). Probably a bunch of kids missing out on creating memories and cemented relationships for a dream which does not materialize. Sentimental, sure. But you only get one shot at the college experience.

The NFL needs an official minor league system.

This is just my opinion but I think there are exceptions. These kids busted their asses. They went perfect. If I’m a scout I give them a pass because of what they achieved and cards they were dealt.

Some may hold it against them for sure.

But it’s EXPLAINABLE. It’s REASONABLE. We’re all human right?

Rational, I get what you’re saying.

NFL point of view: Skipping regular season games would be bad, but opting out of the bowl to preserve NFL health is good.

Player POV: You want to appear dependable and tough, but not take unnecessary risks.

Team POV: You want players to stay and play and have loyalty.:

The problem is, there are built-in incentives for the first 2. However, there is nothing the “TEAM”: is doing to incentivize player loyalty.

This is why contracts exist on the pro level. This is why NIL should be run through the teams, OR NIL should be dumped completely and the teams should just pay the players.

I guess that “messes up college football” but this is the real world, in a capitalist society, and we are expecting a lot of players for free. It’s hard to blame them or the NFL, so to me the blame falls squarely on the team and the NCAA.

Have to figure that people offering NIL’s will start to put clauses into agreements for mandatory bowl games. Who knows but I can see this happening pretty soon.

OR - the 12 team playoff will just stop all the silliness since all those games are valuable and offer a chip.

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