5 Russian Withdrawal

It’s been days now so we can reliably state this sequence of events:

1) Russia never managed to encircle Kyiv.
They were never able to cut supply lines to the capital. GSC and others may posit that taking Kyiv was never the goal. Possible, but it’s not plausible that Russia planned on allowing supplies to flow into the city unfettered. Besides the tactical blunder of dead paratroopers showing their hand, it’s idiocy to allow supplies into the city.

2) Ukraine started taking territory back.
Again, this is undisputed. Areas around Kyiv that were under Russian control came under Ukrainian attack and Russian forces were pushed back. Ukraine retook cities.

3) Russia announced the first stage of the invasion was complete and they would focus on Donbas.
It is key to note that it was a full 2 days after reports of the Ukrainian offensives before Russia announced their withdrawal. I think this is a face-saving measure instead of publicly admitting defeat on the northern front (where they still haven’t captured Chernihiv).

4) Northern front troops and armor are actually withdrawing.
We still need to be cautiously optimistic here, but there has been confirmed evidence of a tactical retreat of Russian troops. Some areas show heavy Russian losses and abandoned armor, signifying a retreat under fire.

Now, this war is far from over. Russia can stay in the south and east for another month if they like. Getting out of Belarus/Kyiv frees up a lot of resources, especially as Russia has seen notable sabotage along that front (some from Belarusians). Unifying their front along the east border simplifies their already complex logistical issues.

Russia can announce a win, a successful “demilitarization” of Ukraine, and then focus on the separatist regions. Of course, the West (as well as Russia) knows that Ukraine’s military power is only heightening after this war. They’re receiving new drones and air defenses that they never had before.

As far as conspiracy nonsense about bioweapon facilities, Russia never penetrated many encircled cities, including Kyiv. Russia never occupied 80% of the country, including nowhere in the west. GSC’s “bioweapon” map showed dots all over the country. If this was an objective, it was a failed one.

Hopefully Russia fully pulls out of Northern Ukraine and the war goes back to the east. They are still blockading the Black Sea, of course, so nothing can get to Odesa. But the land corridors through Europe remains untouched.

Unfortunately, developments along these lines will be slow. Moving an army has already proved difficult, and peace talks will have a lot of back and forth yet to come.

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Russia has reportedly left Chernobyl in Ukrainian hands.

Yeah, hearing not good either. Feel bad for the Russian soldiers here.

Yeah, hearing not good either. Feel bad for the Russian soldiers here.

BAhahahahahhahaha…You can’t make this shit up.

Lol it’s so funny when these fucking cunts act like they feel bad…Because we know how trendy “empathy” is nowadays

Shut your goatee you fucking cunt.

Yup, I haven’t seen any confirmation, but it’s a possible a lot of Russian soldiers who had no idea what happened at Chernobyl were digging trenches in the Red Forest… That’s gonna come back to bite them in the ass.

Ukraine allegedly attacks fuel supply in Russia

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Better video now showing airstrikes to boot. Still gonna leave “allegedly” up for now, but HOT DAYUM.

Hilarious

Yes, very interesting!

I believe Ukraine launched a rocket over the border a couple of weeks ago, but this is a new escalation. Two helicopters flew over the border at low altitude and struck that fuel depot. Embarrassing that Russia cannot manage air superiority, but Ukraine’s air defenses have surprised them.

Also, Ukraine took back a city between Kyiv and Chernihiv.

That Ukraine Army that bikki says doesn’t exist is fighting back.

Statement from the White House:

“We have seen incontrovertible evidence that this has been a strategic disaster for Russia,” she said.

I find it amazing that anyone thinks the mainstream reports on this can’t are accurate. This is the weirdest thing I’ve ever witnessed.

I find it amazing that someone can be so amazingly stupid and paranoid at the same time.

I find it amazing that anyone thinks the mainstream Russian reports on this are accurate. This is the weirdest thing I’ve ever witnessed (this year).

Did I say they were?

Now you’re exposing yourself.

I’ve been clear that ALL reports and info are suspect. Haven’t I.

Did I say I was talking about you?

Now YOU’RE exposing yourself.

By the way, when the Russians said all was going according to plan, you agreed that things were probably according to plan.

When the Russians said they were after bioweapon facilities, you agreed they were after bioweapon facilities.

Listen, everything I read and post about, I’m taking with a grain of salt. I understand I’m working with imperfect information. But I will try and work with the best information I can get. That happens to be somewhere in between the “rah rah Ukraine is kicking Russia’s ass” and “Putin is a genius and everything is going according to plan.”

There is no doubt, ZERO, that Ukraine has performed above expectations. They deserve credit for that.

There is also no doubt that Russia has exposed their logistics issues to the world.

Neither of those statements mean I’m swallowing the MSM narrative whole hog. To be honest, I don’t see the same MSM narrative that you conservatives do. Yes, a lot of Ukraine wins are being reported, but so are a lot of Russian wins. I see a lot of tempering of expectations too regarding how long this war could drag out.

Haha…I mean we all know it’s all truth from Rachel M. huh?

Thankfully people are there reporting it, risking their lives and some unfortunately, paying the ultimate price. Thankfully, we can triangulate a lot of reports. Lastly, thankfully there are those who understand that everytime a message is placed in a bottle, something is lost in translation from both the sender and the recipient of that information. It isnt fake, it is discovery. Discovery is a process that is run by trial and error. It is OK to be wrong. What is not OK is to pretend that everything needs to be 100% accurate all the time and then summarily dismissing reality to create random events based of fantasy.

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WW II REFERENCE. Wonder why. Not because they want war. Nope- can’t be that lol.

What are you talking about? Putin is literally repeating history - and it didn’t work out back then (for Germany).

But this exact same article would be fine if it were from GWP, right?

He’s repeating history? How so. Let’s hear it.