This is laughable. This is a matter of power, not respect.
Velensky has pushed and pushed for NATO involvement, much harder than any previous president has. Putin wants that influence terminated.
You know what this is all about. Putin is seen as the white christian nationalist savior of the qanons and GOP authoritarian minions of Trump. The Russians got in with the GOP, the NRA and directly with Trump and we’ve seen them defending our enemies ever since. Putin’s largest goals were destabilizing NATO and making the US lose faith in their institutions. He had Trump working directly on both of those things.
This shit is nothing but racists praising our enemies because they value their hatred of everyone who’s “other” over their country or their country’s ideals. Bikki, GSC, Tucker Carlson…these are the worst of America. Flat out. What absolute trash
All of this war analysis is interesting. Good job 305. I sincerely mean that. I love reading this kind of shit.
But have you not been absolutely confused out of your mind about how, a top 5 military can be having such difficulties with such a local/regional operation?
It’s laughable and highly embarrassing at this point.
Running out of fuel? In your backyard? Really? Who believes this shit?
I can’t take this war seriously. Russia should have Kiev by now.
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I am the only one who has lived in Russia and has dozens of Russian friends, most of whom are accomplished Jewish physicians and want Russia to be a more Democratic nation. While I admire Putin’s ability to survive as Russian leader, the age of autocracy is coming to an end in Russia. What is happening is that Russia, which always had a vibrant capitalistic black market, is embracing free enterprise ventures similar to what has transpired in China. By so doing, many of its citizens have prospered as the entrepreneurial fever sweeps the nation. Capitalism is addictive, because it creates prosperity. The Russian people want to be recognized as being part of the European community, not as outliers who who have hegemonic designs of conquest. Why is it so difficult to understand that Russians resent having nuclear weapons spread along their borders. Why is it so hard to understand that Eastern Slavic people have more affinities with each other than differences. Historically, Ukraine is the site of where the Russian nation began. Its entire written language began with St Cyril and St Methodius bringing the Greek alphabet to Kiev. Unfortunately, the alphabet was corrupted which accounts for Cyrillic being different than Greek. The language of Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia is mutually understood by the people, and the people have natural cultural similarities.
Russia is far from being the enemy of either the United States or Western Europe. If anything, Russia represents a vast area that should be developed as a vital part of Western Civilization. Russians admire the United States and since the fall of communism have a desire to have a Westernized, free nation. The future of Europe would be brightened exponentially through peaceful negotiation. NATO is most certainly the redline crossed that provoked this latest conflict.
The only sane remedy for Ukraine is through settlement. Does it make sense to stand by idly and watch the Russians annihilate Ukrainians? Does it make sense for the West to send troops into Ukraine and expand the conflict? Does Ukraine, the poorest nation in Europe, need an Armed Force? Putin has opened the door to negotiation, and a cease fire should be enacted forthwith.
Nah. Don’t believe a fucking word from you.
Based upon what?
Yeah, that doesn’t appear to be happening in the slightest. Not in virtually any way.
Really? Because all we see is hegemonic designs of conquest. In fact, I"m going to categorize this as another lie. They’re literally throwing out designs of conquest and pursuing in action at this very second.
Joining NATO doesn’t mean you automatically get nukes aimed at Russia. Again, another lie.
Rhetoric. Ukrainians are fighting Russians, not holding hands…all the while you’re trying to convince everyone it’s the US and NATO making this happen. You’re full of shit.
Another lie, what a fucking dishonest jackoff
Russian talking point, flat out lie.
Russian talking point
Rhetoric from a traitor
Russia not allowing the sovereignty of the Ukraine began provoked this conflict
No point in reading anymore. Piece of trash, traitor is all you are. Again, your adulation for Putin and his authoritarian dictatorship lay in that you see him as the white nationalist, anti Islam, pervading hand of your hatred for anything you deem as “other” and you’ll sell out your country to do it. Again,just an immoral sack of lying shit. You’re literally trying to convince your countrymen to celebrate and embrace their enemy, who just attacked us twice in the last several years, run by a dictator who murders his own people, attacks and takes over sovereign nations, and threatens our allies and us with nuclear war if we don’t submit to him…all because you’re a racist and you think he’s cool and thinks like you. There is no defense of this. It defines who you are and who you are, apparently, is a remarkably bad person and a shitty American.
Warden, you know precious little about Russia, and throw around the word traitor with impunity. No one in this room as I have has been a stronger advocate against socialism and certainly communism., For years, I’ve reported the folly of the Soviet Union and its governmental plutocracy embodied by the communist party. The Soviet Union would have collapsed decades earlier were it not for its robust black market. Undoing 80 years of communism and centralized incompetence is a mighty task, but it is most certainly happening in Russia. Russians want a Western style of life, and the Russian people love their country and have a justifiable disdain for NATO. Your problem is not having the ability to examine the conflict from Russia’s point of view.
Putin is an extraordinary leader that he has survived extant as a successor head of state. Since you know so little about Russia, Putin’s longevity is quite remarkable. However, Putin’s days are numbered and new leadership is emerging in Russia. There is no difference between Russia interceding in Ukraine than the U.S. interceding in Cuba during the missile crisis. The Ukrainian government is far more corrupt than even that of Russia, and I don’t blame Putin one bit for not wanting an armed antagonist that should not be an antagonist but for political propaganda. You’ll recall the U.S. also interceded in Iraq over the matter of weapons of mass destruction. Subsequently, the U.S.engaged Iraqis in a war that saw hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead. I suppose the national sovereignty of Iraq didn’t matter. Your problem Warden is that you cannot see both sides of an issue. Actually though a despot, Saddam was one of the most enlightened Arab rulers, were there ever such a thing. Women had a long tradition of both education as well as voting in Iraq. Furthermore, Iraq was a buffer to Iranian hegemony in the region. Think, Warden, there would never have an ISIS were it not for America and super failure Barack Obama.
Prior to Biden enriching Russia, the Russian Army was not in position to invade and occupy Ukraine. Biden made Russia great at the expense of the American people who now pay extravagantly for gasoline and other forms of energy. This is just one single criterion out of many why Trump was such a successful president compared to the demented moron now making America less great with each passing day. Thankfully, the mid-terms will see the Dems annihilated and much of the Biden damage can be undone.
The beginning of the Russian civilization which includes all Eastern Slavic peoples indeed began with Novgorod and Kievan Rus. It was the Greek monks who to Kiev brought writing and literacy to the people. Your saying it is lie is in of itself mistaken and hence a lie. Under Prince Otto a line of rulers can be traced from Kiev eventually to Moscow and to St. Petersburg. Kievan Rus also was the birthplace of Russian literature about which I am certain you are hardly literate. Novgorod and Kieven Rus began in the 9th Century. Kieven Rus is almost one thousand years older than Petrograd built by Peter the Great in the beginning of the 18th century.
You Warden are on the wrong side of human liberty, favoring collectivism over individual rights. If anyone is traitor to the ideas expressed in the Bill of Rights, it is you, the one who has never set foot in Russia, much less lived for several decades in Russia. You are also a very rude writer, and the only one in fifteen years whom I believe richly deserves to be call a “cunt.” If you have a point to make, try formal polemics. Pretend you are in a courtroom operating under rules of civil procedure instead of being a troglodytic stone thrower
You would think, GSC. But here’s the thing (from what I’ve read anyway).
-A lot of their equipment is old
-If I remember, 70% of their military is voluntary and they sign up for longer stints - and make a higher salary.
-The other 30% is conscripted. They go in for a year and make much less. They’re also not trained as well. This combination of military personnel, from what I’ve read, isn’t generally one that gets along.
-Another major problem is, a huge number of soldiers don’t want to be there. Supposedly many didn’t even know they were in Ukraine; they thought it was a training exercise. This, along with the fact that obviously, there are. Lot of Russians in Ukraine……it’s almost like they’re attacking their own citizens.
And while Russia is apparently good at trying to plow through their enemy, they aren’t great at logistics apparently. Soldiers abandoning their equipment because they run out of fuel and beg locals for food? They may be able to take Ukraine….but can they hold it? Ukrainians aren’t fans of Russia, to say the least and most adults will stay and fight.
Can a demoralized army handle a long insurgency?
First, the level of idiocy in this post is astonishing, even from a slapdick like Bikki.
Yet, you adore and defend fascism and oligarchy. Also, socialism is the 2nd step of the process. Communism is when the government is given to the people, which has never happened. Again, you pretend to know shit but just don’t. You’re a conman.
Really? Is that why Russians wore USSR gear this year? Russian Ice Hockey Team’s USSR Jerseys Raise Eyebrows - Bloomberg
Is that why Putin called the fall of the USSR the greatest geopolitical strategy of the 20th century?
Again, I’ll tack this one to a flat out lie on behalf of Russia…which has become your go to, lately.
Your problem is your blind support for Russia, our enemy and the enemy of the West.
Putin would agree with you. The people he murdered for opposing him, not so much.
True, he is the longest serving leader since Stalin at
Brezhnev lasted 6601 days.
Stalin for 10.636 days
Khruschev at 3536 Yeltsin at 3096
Gorbachev @ 2480
etc.
Finally, something that’s not a lie.
A lie. We didn’t go into Cuba and start bombing cities and take over their country. Also, Cuba was allowing Russian nuclear weapons aimed at us on its soil at a time where that was essentially the only method to hit us on target. Ukraine is just trying to join NATO to not get taken over by Russia, not involving any nukes aimed at Russia. Pathological.
You’re not one to determine that. You seem to be drawn to whomever is the most corrupt by your very nature.
That’s because you’re a traitor to the US and our western allies.
I marched against that war and the lies it was based upon.
Again, you’re an idiot. I marched against that war. I’ll bet you didn’t.
I marched against Iraq because I saw it was a lie and would destabilize the region.
This one backfired on you didn’t it? Again, I marched against the Iraq invasion several times. I’ll venture to bet you didn’t. See, I could tell you all these things in 2003 and how it would play out. I wasn’t far off either.
Another lie. Russia produces close to 11 million barrels per day of crude oil. It uses roughly half of it for their own internal demand, likely higher with the military excursion. It exports between 5-6 million barrels of oil per day. It’s currently the 2nd largest oil producer in the world behind the United States and above Saudi Arabia, which changes position once in a while.
Half of Russian oil exports go to European countries. China imports 1.6 million barrels a day from Russia. In 2021, the US imports 209,000 barrels of oil per day from Russia on average. This represents 3% of US crude oil imports. By contract, 61% comes from Canada, 10% from Mexico, and 6% from the Saudis. Imports from Russia increased in 2019, when the US imposed sanctions on Venezuela’s oil industry.
As of Dec 2021, we still imported less Russian oil than at the height of Trump’s Presidency. In fact, take a look at 2019 under Trump.
Again, you’re full of shit. As always. Also, the gas price has literally almost nothing to do with Russian oil imports.
Another lie, see above.
I’m not even reading more…you’re a remarkable waste of time, but I do enjoy pointing out how you’re a traitor to US ideals, western allies, and our country in general. It’s a shame you have such a broken belief window and so little character. If what matters at the end of a life is what’s inside, how you’ve developed and grown it, you appear to be quite lacking. Unfortunately, one has to have the values you appear to be lacking to recognize and address the values you appear to be lacking.
Also, don’t give me that Ayn Rand reference. She defined cunt and deserved what she got…to die alone on government benefits in government housing like the hypocritical cunt she was.
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Thanks, GSC. I’m taking a much heavier interest in this than I usually do with most current events.
It’s pretty mind blowing. I really think they tried minimal shock and awe, maybe even an invasion along the entire shared border to split Ukraine’s attention, and then a surgical strike at Kyiv’s government.
I believe what foiled it was Western intelligence, even if you don’t want to credit that.
As far as the unbeatable Russian military, look up how Russia fared in the First Chechen War.
Despite Russia’s overwhelming advantages in firepower, manpower, weaponry, artillery, combat vehicles, airstrikes and air support, the resulting widespread demoralization of federal forces and the almost universal opposition of the Russian public to the conflict led Boris Yeltsin’s government to declare a ceasefire with the Chechens in 1996, and finally a peace treaty in 1997.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War
It’s not as simple as running out. According to various reports:
- underfed Russian soldiers, traded/sold fuel for food during the extended troop buildup. (I have seen a video of a purported Ukrainian opening Russian MREs that have been expired for years.)
- troops unwilling to fight creating leaks in their own gas tanks
- drone strikes on supply depots, no doubt due to Western intelligence
- initial blitz outrunning their own supplies
- ukrainian strategy of targeting supplies (“If you see a tank drive by, blow up or wait by that road because a fuel truck will eventually follow.”) This is, again, Western training.
But you’re absolutely correct that it feels like Russia is fighting a war in the 80s. The respected uK think tank RUSI wrote a paper on the mysterious absence of the Russian Air Force.
There are a few possible theories regarding it, from their fleet being out of date, to it just costing a LOT of money and they would rather throw bodies at the problem, to preferring to save their state-of-the-art stuff for a more serious enemy. I personally wonder if Russia is afraid sending their air force in would antagonize NATO too much. Right now they have free rein of the country. Why push it?
The price of oil, Warden, explained simple so you might understand, is based upon scarcity of product and demand for the same. With Biden restricting domestic production, the price of a barrel of oil has doubled, increasing Kremlin revenue on product by 100 per cent. It is basic economics which apparently eludes you. Indeed Biden made Russia great by restricting domestic production and created a revenue stream for Putin to prosecute war in Ukraine. Furthermore hypocritically Biden and the EU have put no sanctions of Russian oil or gas. Amidst the turmoil in Ukraine, the pipelines continue sending Russian gas through Ukraine to Eastern Europe. The same is true of Nordstream 1. It won’t be long before Putin’s profits will reach 200 percent gain. As Skeeter pointed out, sanctions have little effect on Russia because the West has no stomach to sanction fuel… This conflict would NEVER have occurred under Trump who warned Europeans of the peril of being wholly dependent on Russia supplying energy. Trump proposed selling excess US production to Europe which would have been a very profitable deal. Trump was a superb businessman turning a small personal fortune into billions of dollars. In contrast, read Schroeder’s book on how the Bidens became rich.
Speaking of sanctions, another thing that most likely has also eluded you has been Biden giving away the farm by removing sanctions against some of the Iranian homicidal maniacs while at the same time trying to slip the very dumb Obama Nuclear Accords past congressional scrutiny. I will explain this in another post exposing more sheer incompetence of Biden compared to the redoubtable wisdom of the Trump Administration.
You dodged the question of recognizing national sovereignty by claiming three times that you opposed the Iraq War. So what. That has nothing to do with the question at bar which is that of national sovereignty. Clearly the U.S. in both cases Cuba and Iraq had no compunctions about having its way with both nations regardless of their national sovereignty. This is exactly what Putin is doing.because Biden crossed the proverbial red line provoking a Russian response.
What is really stupid on your part among host of other things, is your uncaring attitude toward the needless slaughter of Ukrainians and destruction of what is already the poorest nation in Europe. I thought unnecessary violence was solidly cemented into the orthodoxy of political progressives. Why should Putin back down knowing the West has already stated unequivocally that it will not send troops into Ukraine. The only viable remedy to solve this conflict is through negotiation. Yes, the map of Europe will change as it has done dozens of times throughout the past. You might study the map of Europe and its territorial changes over the centuries. Almost nothing has changed in Crimea since the Russian takeover, and nothing is going to change in either Donetsk or Luhansk. What kind of policy is keeping the war going in Ukraine so long as it does not endanger lives of Americans or other Europeans? What we should be doing is rendering aid to the injured, homeless, and refugees not sending Ukraine more weapons to prolong the conflict in which our response is half-hearted.
The long range plan for Europe should be IMO to improve relations with Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, and this plan is eminently logical inasmuch as Russia has a fervent and growing desire to develop as a Western nation.
I think I have explained my thinking on the subject of the Ukraine crisis. Since you are highly critical of my point of view, please edify us how you as a progressive aka Marxist would handle the Ukraine crisis were you in charge. You could title your presentation, A Cunt’s View on Handling the Crisis in Ukraine.
Bikki you are so laughably stupid it amazes me every time. Not a single person on this board doesn’t realize that you are so blinded by your political ideology that you can’t think coherently.
No one takes you serious as you pen the most ludicrous garbage. Why don’t you once try to write something that doesn’t bash an American liberal/progressive and focus on the subject at hand, Putin. This should be an easy target for all Americans to ADS on. Yet, here you are pumping sunshine for Putin and the people of Russia while trying to take jabs at Americans because you think we are the real enemy. Warden is spot on with his astute analysis regarding you. You are very dishonest and a traitor to the very idea of our constitution and democracy. It is sickening to hear you stump for one of our greatest enemies of capitalism and democracy. You are a piece of shit and will always be one it seems. Sad
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Vastly outmatched by Russia’s military, in terms of raw numbers and firepower, Ukraine’s own air force is still flying and its air defenses are still deemed to be viable - a fact that is baffling military experts.
After the opening salvos of the war on Feb. 24, analysts expected the Russian military to try to immediately destroy Ukraine’s air force and air defenses.
That would have been “the logical and widely anticipated next step, as seen in almost every military conflict since 1938,” wrote the RUSI think-tank in London, in an article called “The Mysterious Case of the Missing Russian Air Force.”
Instead, Ukrainian air force fighter jets are still carrying out low-level, defensive counter-air and ground-attack sorties. Russia is still flying through contested airspace.
Doesn’t …. Make…. Sense….
They just forgot a critical step to victory by allowing Ukraine’s Air Force to remain on the chess board?
Very very odd set of circumstances.
This is baffling everyone GSC. You would think that this would be one of the first things they’d use before moving in on the ground.
He’s not even worth responding to. There has seldom in my life been a person so inherently dishonest as Bikki, rotted out from the core of his being. There is a reason he lives in the Pensacola white trash region of the world. When I see Bikki posting, I think of this cat…
but in the character of this cat
White trash in a powdered wig, lonely, old, racist and getting drunk on a beach filled with garbage
Definitely, this point is a head scratcher.
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Either Ukraine had air defenses that were hidden/unreachable to Russia, or many of their planes / defenses are being stored outside Ukraine in NATO territory where Russia simply cannot strike.
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Another possibility is somewhere in the middle, where Russia is not willing to send missiles into far west Ukraine in fear of provoking NATO. In fact, I wouldn’t say it was impossible that NATO/Russia made some kind of unspoken agreement along these lines. The VERY WORST thing Putin can do right now is have an undisciplined conscript accidentally fire over a NATO border or take out a NATO sortie.
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And one more thing. A lot of Russian shelling is done with artillery on the ground, which requires forces to advance to get within range. Possibly a cost-saving measure or reliance on old equipment, since they have the capability for more.
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And then to add to all this, Ukraine is constantly being resupplied with new defenses/supplies from other countries, so even if their stuff gets bombed, they get some more.
As far as Russia flying more sorties, Ukraine has basically been outfitted, by NATO, with THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of weapons built with almost the express purpose of taking out Russian armor and wings. Combined with excellent intelligence, it is very risky to send planes overhead.
Let’s be honest, bikki might be a pleasant guy in some conversations, but he is a very old dude who is the least likely out of everyone here, even including SF, to change his mind on something. Bikki is the definition of set in his ways at this point.
I mean, he was calling Putin a genius a few days ago…
He was saying Russia wouldn’t invade Kharkiv while they were being shelled…
He still says Russia isn’t going for Odesa…
It’s a clear disconnect from reality.
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cancelled
I kinda lean this way…Obviously I have no way of knowing.
His best post ever! Not a single lie
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