1 Shit's getting real in Ukraine

You can quote your biased sources all day, but it doesn’t mean you are right.

You and 305 run to MSNBC. Say what you want, the Biden’s are compromised and the American public knows it.

Look at the polling, dude.

Perhaps…….but would you take that bet and not prepare as if there was about to be an invasion?

Remember - China is watching this thing very closely….

And this is the PERFECT example of how Republicans, like yourself, don’t care in the slightest about policy or even reality. They do not have the integrity to care, full stop. The largest determining factor in being a right winger is a lack of integrity as a person. You proved that yet again.

You were provided direct source material from Financial Times, Senator Rob Portman’s office at the time of the signing of the request. You were provided clear background you can fact check yourself, with dated material from the EU, IrishTimes, The Guardian, The Independent, and the DNI website.

None of it scratched the surface. Why? Because you didn’t care if it was true to begin with. You simply don’t have the integrity to care. It’s a detestable state when our citizens simply don’t give a fuck what’s real, haven’t the integrity or value for their own country. What a fucking disgrace you are.

Biden’s approval rating is low. So was Trump’s. So what? Let me guess, think the Beatles were less than Brittney Spears because they sold less records, right?

How about Trump AND Biden together?

Pathetic.

Lol. No one takes you seriously. Do some more drugs loser.

Guy knows nothing about anybody on here and lobs these insults. Get lost pal.

It’s so weird because when he knocks off the moral indignation and insults he’s cool to talk too.

We have different opinions. Doesn’t make one evil and one righteous.

I love liberals. Sometimes I think their ideas are stupid but I never question their morality or integrity.

Just a silly path to go down.

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If the guy didn’t throw the cheap shots out he’d be worth listening to. I disregard everything he says because of his approach so he’s doing a pretty terrible job of being persuasive.

Me too. And then he draws me into it.

I’ve been on the board a long time. I seldom do personal insults. But I’m going to retaliate when it’s all he does.

Like, literally nothing whatsoever were you interested in. Your narrative of the situation in the Ukraine is simply wrong. Yet, you show you have literally no interest in the reality of it. None of this was partisan or from partisan websites. I sent you source material in some instances, even to the point of providing articles at the time.
Yet again, you showed literally zero interest or care that you were simply wrong on all accounts.

What other interpretation is just outside of questioning your integrity, then? Honest question.

This is coming from a guy that questions every right wing source.

Unfortunately, its a learned response. I’m not trying to really be persuasive. The material persuades itself. I try to just provide information and sources. Like, if you need me to convince you of gravity, we’re starting too far back. But, I can walk with you outside and we can throw a ball off a bridge together and I can list you sources on how it works. If you still need me to convince you, either you’re just too special for me or you come from a perspective of not caring in the first place.
Literally decades of talking to right wingers has led to this learned response. I don’t think you’ll all of the sudden change your mind or come back and say you were wrong. That’s WHY I don’t think Republicans have integrity.
Again, I showed you clearly the position was wrong. There’s not a matter of opinion on that at this point. You didn’t address it or care in the slightest. What other conclusion am I to come up with?

It’s like Trump stating China is paying the tariffs. Tariffs don’t work like that. US importers pay the tariffs. It’s not a matter of opinion. There aren’t sources stating this happens outside of GOP talking points from Trump. I don’t need to persuade you to this. You either accept reality or don’t. However, when you don’t, you show you didn’t have the integrity to care about said reality.

Again, what other conclusion am I to make?

You mean like the Gateway Pundit who’s been called the stupidest man on the internet for a decade, or Disclose TV? It’s not my fault you use overtly fake news sources. As I mentioned, I listed sources from throughout the world, direct source material, IMF, EU, DNI…it’s like you conservatives think if it doesn’t come directly from a right wing partisan source that it’s fake. Everything that’s not a directly right wing source is fake. Shit, you’ve used Twitter.

Again, none of the aforementioned is esoteric knowledge. What part of any of it is in dispute?

Even though the experts in the field can’t explain or prove it either?

Lol.

Come on man. This is pure gold.

Gravity isn’t a fact, it’s a model.

Things falls at heights. Gravity, the model, attempts to explain it…. So do other models.

But I digress

Oh man…this guy with his disputing gravity, thinking the earth is the center of the Universe, arguing with Galileo and Copernicus, the moon landing and NASA aren’t real, and thinking the Bible is inerrant fact.

You truly are a character. I’ve seen your archetype in movies you’re so much of a character.

Willful ignorance is real thing, folks. You’ll rarely meet someone as truly willfully ignorant as this cat. This is a once in a lifetime type of thing.

Let me explain it again.

I’m not “disputing” gravity. I’m calling it what it is.

It’s a mathematical formula that attempts to explain a force we perceive in our universe.

There are other models that attempt to do so.

Density model
Curved space model.

I’m agnostic. I’m fine with the gravity model. It has explanatory power. So do the others.

I will say that there are some questions about gravity that are really difficult to answer such as the nature of its strong and weak force having different impacts on matter.

Please don’t take me out of context.

There are salesmen and then there are salesmen who are sleezebag grifters. Your position in that is quite clear. You do realize people can scroll up, right? :joy:

Yea- thanks for confirming what I said. It’s a model. It’s not an absolute certainty.

What’s certain is that objects with mass fall. We believe it is because other, more massive objects attract them. We use a mathematical formula to express this force.

But once again, it’s not a proven absolute fact that this model is true. It simply works when we plug it into some things so it’s useful.

I never even brought up his approval rating in this argument. I just said the Biden’s are corrupt as hell.

If you don’t believe that, I have some oceanfront property in my state to sell you.

That’s not a low integrity take, it’s called common sense.

Hunter is peddling his shitty art to foreign folks for crazy sums of money. I’m sure that’s all above board.

They got a cut for the “big guy” remember. Biden’s and Clinton’s are dirty as hell.

No, I don’t think GSC is ignorant at all. I think he’s really smart.

But he cant admit fault and does whatever he can to twist something that isn’t true into an argument that makes him (at least in his own mind) right.

Sounds like someone else we all know.

Very possible. I’ve read the troop buildups were there merely to support the rebels, because as long as portions of Ukraine are contested it is against the rules for them to join NATO.

That said, Russia is opportunistic as fuck, and if Ukraine lets their guard down, Russia will roll them. So while the troop buildup might be posturing, everyone else needs to posture back to keep them in line.

Literally never watch it.

Took you long enough

Not quite as big of fraud as Nikki, but getting there.