1 Shit's getting real in Ukraine

100k Russian troops on the border. Biden saying there’s a good chance Russia will invade. Canada sending a warship to the Black Sea.

It should be noted that Canada probably has a rotation of ships it regularly sends to the Black Sea, but this combined with Trudeau pledging support for Ukrainians.

There is a LOT of posturing going on.

Yep. Hopefully that’s all it will be, but I was surprised to hear Biden flat out saying they’ll probably “move in.” Unfortunately I don’t have much confidence that Biden will do much even if it does happen.

China is watching this very closely with respect to how they may choose to handle Taiwan.

Isn’t it amazing that all these hostile nations never challenged Trump? But now they are all challenging Biden.

I would say consequences of your vote, but…. Well, you know.

Also, could it be he defended Russian aggression?

Oh you mean the Russia hoax lie? Yeah even if that was true it wasn’t a physical military threat

I don’t understand your point, GSC.

Putin didn’t challenge Trump because Trump was giving him everything he wanted. Trump gave them our military bases, he hedged on Crimea, and he fought to remove sanctions against Russia.

You need to stand up to Putin to make him an enemy. What do you want to do, lie down?

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I don’t know think this Russian thing is as big as it’s made out to be.

The admin is in need of a distraction with cratering poll numbers and every one of Biden’s signature legislative pieces getting shot down.

It’s been a rough 3-4 months for Dems.

This might be the most dishonest comment you’ve ever made on this board.

Remember that cyber attack by Russia? Remember when Trump and Putin were at a presser and he may as well have bent over and kissed Putin’s arse? He took Putin at his word when he denied it was Russia.

“I don’t see any reason why it would be Russia.”

And don’t give me the “he misspoke and corrected it later” BS. He knew exactly what he was saying.

I do not have much confidence that Biden will stand up to Putin in a meaningful way outside of sanctions. But don’t sit there and pretend that Trump hasnt been neutered more than once on the international stage.

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I’m sure Neville said the same about Germany

It may not be. Russia does a lot of posturing itself as they have their own problems to deal with. But the situation is hard to ignore after Crimea and with what’s going on in Donbas.

At the very least, these measures are negotiations with Russia over gas, sanctions, NATO. I’m not an alarmist but it’s very easy to see how things could go wrong.

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This. And, history can have a way of repeating itself……look up “appeasement” during WW2……

The big problem is that Eastern Ukraine and particularly Crimea have Russian not Ukrainian speaking people. Crimea has always been Russian. All the schools use the Russian language. It is naturally part of Russia not Ukraine. IMO, Urkraine is better off as part of Russia rather than becoming part of NATO. Unfortunately, Putin is a thousand times smarter than Biden, and Putin has the hole card of being able to withhold energy from Europe. Not having Trump in the White House is a foreign policy disaster although we will never go to war over Ukraine. Even Biden is not stupid enough to start a war with Russia.

Kazakhstan has a similar problem. A huge country, its northern half is Russian while its southern area including its capital is predominantly Muslim. Kasakstan instability is a threat to Russia, and I think more rebellions are bound to occur.

See above. Lol.

Ukraine is a military operation = Americans die.

Yours and wardens is computer code.

And it’s even in dispute whether it even happened or it was our own CIA setting the Russians up.

I’m beginning to think you’re not close to as smart as I thought.

Do you know what Russia is doing to Ukraine RIGHT NOW, ahead of any potential military action?

Cyber attacks. And why is that? Oh, I don’t know, maybe because they have the potential to disrupt major services, fuel distribution and communications?

No, that can’t be it.

You ignore Trump all but sucking Putin and Kim’s balls in front of the camera but you’re more than happy to after Biden.

Got it.

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How do you know this?

CNN told you? Some other large network?

If you think that the United States is threatened by cyber attacks the way they would be with conventional war- you’re insane.

The cyber attacks that Russia “allegedly” made were not even military nature. So the analogy/comparison fails.

And again- I use the word allegedly very boldly.

Yet you take everything you read from Q and GWP as gospel. Got it.

How do you know there was fraud? Q, GWP and tik tok told you?

I can do this too.

And while a cyber attack is not the same as carpet bombs hitting a city, if you think they can’t and have not had devastating impacts on systems and infrastructure, which can affect people’s lives, you’re insane.

Hell, do some research on what ransomeware can do to a hospital, for example. No big deal? Get back to me on that.

And you conveniently ignore my main point about Trump never being challenged.

Zero integrity.

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This isn’t a problem. Besides Ukrainian, the state has 12 recognized regional languages. Russian is only one of them.

Does the fact that the USA speaks English mean we should be a British state?

No it hasn’t. Look up your history, bikki.

Crimea was officially annexed to Russia in 1783. Do you dispute that?

So you entirely supported Russia taking Crimea back?

And BTW I’ll take your lack of repose to my post above as you conceding.

I didn’t say that. I’m just agreeing with bikki that it was legally their property according to the deal they made with the Ottomans.