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NO. THEY. DIDN’T. (Lol).

Watch the broadcast Warden linked. It freaking has ANIMATION and SIMULATION emblazoned across the screen. The part where the lunar is landing is faked, because there wasn’t a film crew on the moon before the thing landed. use some common sense for once in your life.

The first 2 articles are the same thing. but those articles don’t discuss the landing animation at all. It’s very clear you don’t even know what you’re talking about.

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You’ll twist yourself in knots on this. The belief is strong.

What knot?

Did you or did you not say Buzz claimed he didn’t land on the moon?

Listen to your clip and watch Warden’s clip.

Is there ANY ambiguity that he was referring to the animation of the lunar touching down?

For a self proclaimed intellectual, you sure do play stupid a lot.

Use all the emojis you want, brother. You were wrong AGAIN and you refuse to admit it AGAIN. This should be a moment of self reflection. Use it.

Answer honestly. Were you wrong about what Buzz Aldrin was referring to or not?

Nope- he said that they didn’t film anything. It was an animation. And I’m saying that if they lied about that, then everything they tell us is in question.

Seems pretty logical and reasonable to me.

There is- he said “no you didn’t, no you didn’t, because uh…. There wasn’t any television, there wasn’t any way to take a picture. You watched animation.”

There’s no way to spin that statement. He wasn’t just referring to the landing.

Look at this little doozy.

8 year old girl. “Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time.”

Buzz - “Ha! that’s not an 8 year old’s question. That’s my question. I want to know. But I think I know. Because we didn’t go there. and that’s the way it happened. And if it didn’t happen, it’s nice to know why it didn’t happen so in the future, if we want to keep doing something We need to know why something stopped in the past if we want to keep it going. But I think I know. Because we didn’t Because we didn’t Because we didn’t

Go spin that one. Find a nice snipes or USA fact check lol…. I’m sure they tied themselves in knots as well.

You are a liar. If he said “they didn’t film anything” tell me the timestamp.

Here’s my transcription:

Conan: “We went down and we watched you guys land on the moon.”
Buzz: “No you didn’t. No you didn’t.”
C: “Why?”
B: “Because, uh, there wasn’t any television, there wasn’t anybody taking pictures. You watched animation. You associated what you saw with…”
C: I have very hazy memories."

And then there’s some extra jabbering, but basically

C: “What we SAW was…”
B: “I know. You HEARD, you HEARD ME talking about…”

If you watch the moon landing clip that aired on CBS, the one Conan is referring to watching, what do you see? YOU SEE AN ANIMATION OF THE LANDING, and YOU HEAR THE ASTRONAUTS OVERLAID ON THE ANIMATION.

That is exactly what Buzz said. There were no cameras on the moon filming touchdown.

They then go on to discuss walking on the moon and the experience, which blows away your stupid theory all over again. But hey, ignore the evidence you don’t like…

No fact check needed, just listen to the man.

She asks why hasn’t anybody been to the moon in such a long time. His answer is, it’s complicated, but we just didn’t go [in such a long time].

He says:

“In the future, if we want to keep doing something, we need to know why something stopped in the past that we wanted to keep it going.”

You know what Buzz wanted to keep doing? Landing on the moon. But they didn’t. They stopped. They did it in the past and they stopped. And it’s a complicated answer for an 8-yr-old because there were a lot of politics involved.

Lol- same thing. No one was taking pictures. No one was filming.

He let the cat out of the bag multiple times on this.

And who else loves GSC telling me to go check snopes derisively, when you can practically SEE HIM running to google DID BUZZ ALDRIN SAY WE DIDN’T GO TO MOON.

Pathetic.

Exactly. There couldn’t have been anybody filming the landing. No one was on the moon yet. That’s why Conan saw an animation. Thank you.

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305- there are literally documentaries of people debating this. No one filmed anything on the moon. It was done in a studio. It’s all a charade. I’m sure before you meet your maker the truth will definitively come out.

But you’re free to believe what you want.

We never went where?

Which means what?

I’ll tell you. It means nothing. There are documentaries about everything.

Care to chat about all the documentaries debating Christianity?

Why are you so invested to the idea that we went to the moon? Would it scare you or cause you pain if it didn’t happen?

I don’t understand why you have an allegiance to this level?

There’s more than adequate evidence to support the proposition that we never went. Here’s a good one that you can measure.

They say the moon is virtually 0 lux (meaning it emits no light. But we can see clearly on a full moon that the moon does either emit or reflect light…

We can calculate the luminosity for light to be able to travel from the moon to earth.

Every 200 meters required about 1,000 lumens. So every 200 meters, you’d have to double the amount of lumens it would take for light to get here from the moon. If you started with 1 lumen, by the time you get to the moon you’d have trillions or more lumens that would have to be present as the source on the moon to make it here.

But go look at the film of the moon landing. Dark, dingy.

They couldn’t be on the dark side of the moon right? We’d have required relay satellites to transmit signal back to Earth. So we were on the bright side.

Where was the light 305? If we do the calculations, there’s be so much light it would be blinding. They would have required eye protection.

Instead we got this

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I’m not. I would actually entertain a good hoax theory. This case is especially warranted because the whole thing was a publicity stunt more than anything. but i still believe we pulled it off.

Your problem is your theories are trash. If your entire body of evidence is purposefully mischaracterizing an astronaut on a nighttime talk show, your theory is trash.

Let me just stop you right there. The moon is a rock. It doesn’t “emit” light. This can be clearly seen during a lunar eclipse. So let’s stipulate that we’re talking about almost all reflected sunlight.

The sun is the luminous thing here so maybe your calculation works with the sun, ie. the light source. the moon is a rock, much like planet Earth.

The perceived brightness of a planet or moon (i.e. what we see with our eyes), depends on three things: (1) the object’s albedo, (2) the total amount of light that is hitting the object in the first place, and (3) the distance between the object and the eye or camera that is viewing it.

The earth has a bond albedo of 31%. In contrast, the moon has a bond albedo of 12%. To bring this closer to home, the moon has the same bond albedo as old asphalt, such as is found in roads and parking lots.

This question also displays a fundamental misunderstanding of what the “dark side of the moon” is.

The “dark” side of the moon is really that FAR side of the moon. The moon is tidally locked with the Earth, so as it rotates around us, we always see the same face. This is the NEAR side of the moon, and the opposite side that faces away is the FAR side of the moon.

The sun at any given time can be shining on either side of the moon. For all we know in the moon walking pictures, the sun is lighting the far side of the moon while the astronauts are walking on the near side.

Now, I don’t know that to be the case, and I don’t know if your lux theory would even hold up regardless, but this is a significant hole in your theory and proof that, again, you are woefully misinformed on the science.

It’s simple calculations. 1 lumen doubles to 2 at 200 meters. Then 4 at 400 meters and so on.

The moon is 384,000,000 million meters (that’s right million, millions) away. It’s an inconceivable number.

To give you perspective, 80 lumens can stun your eyes. 200 can cause temporary blindness. 10,000 would be almost impossible to view anything without proper eyewear.

We’re talking trillions here.

The albedo scale you’re referring to above is simply a measurement of how reflective a surface is. It says nothing about actual lumens generated or reflected.

Some other stuff I dug up. First is a pic of where the lunar would have been during the same lunar phase in relation to the sun. It looks like the astronauts were at the very beginning of the day, which is why the sun was casting long shadows. So only about 1/3rd the sunlight.

Another things is that the moon surface WAS pretty bright, and the cameras had to be underexposed /dimmed to capture the lander and astronauts. This “dimming” is why you don’t see stars in space behind them, because the moon is super bright in comparison.