How, exactly?
Okay. I thought I explained some of the shit they did as well. But, things were relatively hunky dory until the 30s when Israelis were openly talking about taking their shit. That made them start going, what the fuck? We’re not going to allow that. In 1897 at the First Zionist Congress, they openly talked about sticking a dick in the people who currently lived on the land. I’m not making that shit up, you can just copy and paste it. It’s not esoteric knowledge.
In 1948, 85% of the population was forced out of their homes by guns and thrown behind walls. Wouldn’t that piss you off?
Munich, terrorism, all that shit happened after that, right? Am I wrong?
How exactly am I rewriting history if you’re simply refusing to even acknowledge any of this?
Because they’re pricks and want to use them as pawn in their political war against Israel. I don’t think hardly anyone actually gives a shit about the Palestinians over there, including Hamas.
Okay, so this is where you’re being dishonest. Not wrong, dishonest. You sound like a child in this response.
The allegation is the Jews took their land. That’s a fact. 100%, the Jews took their land. Do you dispute that? If so, that’s a core issue and let’s discuss it like grown men, not acting like a child and saying “oh the world blames us for everything.”
I’ve addressed the history of the Jews and persecution throughout the centuries. I’m literally married to someone who lost family in the Holocaust. But, pretending you’re somehow absolved from anything is childish and not honest. Also, Christians spent centuries persecuting Jews, not Muslims. A simple read of history would show you that. It wasn’t until the 20th century Jews started having problems with Muslims to begin with and again, that’s because of Israel.
And there it is…criticism of Israel automatically means Nazis. Dishonest. Not wrong. Dishonest.
I think that might be right, at this point. But again, if you were in their shoes…would you blame them? With words like the ones you put down here, would you blame them? Rather than take the stance of either you wipe them out or they wipe you out, might it be a better and more constructive idea to actually hear their concerns and think of why they might think that way? Did Israel contribute to that in any way and by acknowledging that, could you potentially start working through some differences? Well, that would mean they were entitled to some rights and some land, and that doesn’t seem like even a consideration to you.
Again…wouldn’t you? If someone kicked your grandmother in the face and threw your mother out the door of their home as a baby with rifle at their face, shot your grandfather in the dick and threw you all behind cement simply for having lived in a home they wanted as theirs…and spent 70 years or more without giving them even a modicum of civil and human rights…how exactly would you feel?
I’m not, in the slightest bit, saying Hamas or whatever is justified in a single action over the years. But, how exactly can you be so unreasonable as to think to yourself, just once…how the fuck would you feel? What would you think? Doesn’t that matter at all to you in this calculation?
Um…the right side of it? One might think YOU could change YOUR history by being on the right side of it too. In 1897, THEY weren’t saying death to all Jews and let’s ethnically cleanse them out of the land. YOU ALL were living side by side in Palestine and eating off each other’s plates. SOMEONE said let’s cleanse them bitches and take their shit and it wasn’t THEM. I’m not sure what to do other than go back and find out who did what first. Ever think of doing that?
Okay. That seems fine. Fuck both of them. But, who exactly is on their side? I don’t think either one of those groups actually fights for Palestinians, just uses them. But, at least in verbiage they do. So, who fights for the Palestinians?
But, you have them behind cement walls and countless checkpoints. For example, to go to Checkpoint A, you have to go through Checkpoint B and L, but L is only open for 2 hours on Tuesday nights between 2100-2300 and it’s fucking closed beyond that. If you are having a baby, you literally have to have it on the fucking sand. These checkpoints are designed to fuck them. They have no civil rights, legally in 2 of the 3 locations. None. Legally no civil rights. They have no representation. Dudes with guns pointed at them are living in the house their grandmother was raised in and was forced out of by a gun. Violating international law, Jewish settlers are taking the last remnants of their land right now, to this day.
What the fuck are you talking about with “negotiating in good faith”? You mean surrendering entirely and leaving the land, right? I’m not sure what the fuck you’re talking about. How can one “negotiate in good faith” with a group who has you enslaved, taken your rights away, stolen your land and thinks the ethnic cleansing of you and your family is just hunky dory? At what point is the responsibility of Israel to finally negotiate in good faith? Weird how with you it’s all one side is evil and my side never did anything wrong.
Um…first, I blame Israel. Jews and Israel are different. You’re doing it again, equating any criticism of Israel with criticism of Jews in general. Again, that’s not just wrong; it’s dishonest.
Also, what in the fuck would anyone NOT blame Israel for the way things are now? Are you a fucking child? That’s one of the most illogical claims I’ve ever heard in my life
You’re pretending a week before Israel wasn’t taking their land in violation of international law. You’re pretending their entire population wasn’t forced out of their homes in 1948. Motherfuckers are still alive who were in that, dude. And how do you respond to it? Pretend nothing happened pre October 7th and not only justify but praise “eradication” of the “animals, savages.”
Jesus fucking nuts Christ, dude…you’re a god damn bloodthirsty psycho.
Gaza isn’t under Hamas rule. It’s under Israeli rule, and they legally have no basic rights as per the Israeli governmment and on fire and covered with the blood of children while you cheer it on. Pretty significant conversation…thanks for sharing.
Not sure what else to say. Fuck. You’re a god damn psychopath. If Israelis all think like this, bloody fucking hell. I’m not sure what else to do other than pull funding and let you fucking lunatic psychos kill each other. Just fucking wow. Like, you walk among us. I’ve seen some shit with Republicans, but I’ve never seen such bloodlust and venom and absolute disregard for even consideration of the other’s point of view like this discussion here. Fucking hell. The Confederacy looks like an afternoon in a bounce house at Six Flags compared to this shit.
