There is no justice- the system is corrupt

A huge travesty of justice. They packed the bench and the jury. Durham is done.

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And add 4 donating democrats to the jury.

Never had a chance. But I was expecting hung trial. Not acquittal.

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You’re hilarious! Instead of admitting you’re being fed bullshit, it MUST be all a conspiracy. You are never going to make your appointment with reality.

Lmfao he been building this shit up for a year now

Just like daddy trump, they throw a tantrum when crazy doesn’t go their way

You didn’t follow the trial I’m presuming. If you did you most likely wouldn’t agree with the verdict.

And you haven’t followed reality for 15 years. Why on earth would anyone listen to you? The justice system is CORRUPT. LMFAO

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I think what GSC means to say is EXONERATED!

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Evidence was compelling, exceeding reasonable doubt, but juries can and do make mistakes. Very disappointing verdict. Washington DC is a tough place to convict a Democrat. Hillary Clinton will never be sent to jail as I predicted many times in years past.

Meanwhile, Derek Chauvin who committed no crime whatsoever will spend the rest of his life as a political prisoner in Minnesota, and his victim 5 time loser, porn star, drug abuser, hoopster George Floyd is laid to rest in a gold embossed coffin fit for a king and is glorified by a past president of the United States.

GSC has written authoritatively on this case, and I am sure he joins me in disappointment about the Sussman verdict. It just takes one aggressive juror to swing a jury. Apparently, a poor job was done in voir dire. Somehow, I perceive a real ringer was present on the jury. At any rate, Sussman is found not guilty despite being not innocent.

This is my main problem with you. I’m being sincere here so I hope i can get a sincere response.

If you followed this trial, it’s pretty clear that the prosecution did its job and proved beyond a reasonable doubt that sussman lied to the FBI.

So I’ll ask you bluntly, do you think the jury here wasn’t corrupted/contaminated?

Do you not also believe that the Judge should not have recused?

And if you do agree with me on these points, why would you come in here trying to make a gloating comment?

Screw what I think. This is our justice system. This case is about creating a false pretext in order to get the FBI to bite in order to start an investigation on a sitting president.

Is this not important to you?

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But, you’ve never once given a sincere and honest response on the counter, to literally anything relating to the 2020 election. Not once.

And yet, you ignore and placate the actual attempted insurrection…from the fake delegates, capitol attack to push the votes, nothing. None of that was important to you. Nothing.

You’re totally, inexorably full of shit.

I was being glib but I wasn’t gloating.

I don’t have a dog in this fight. I couldn’t even explain to you who Sussman is.

But I am pointing out the problem of using conviction as a yard stick for guilt. Is Trump innocent because he has never been found guilty? Is Sussman?

Exoneration was a word thrown around a lot by the conservative establishment in recent years. I simply felt it suitable to remind everybody.

If I were also so inclined, I might remind you what you think about the charge of lying to the FBI. Your take is that it’s a trumped up charge the feds always use when they can’t snag people on anything else, and I believe your boy even pardoned someone for said charge.

As far as the case, I haven’t been following as I generally don’t put much stock in extreme left/right talking points. If I am legitimately missing an injustice, oh well. It happens every day.

That’s question that is treated in law school 305. Not guilty is not always innocent.

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It looks like Hillary is going to be set up to run in 2024! I’d consider her the Dem favorite at this point.

If she’s breathing, she’s running.

THIS! I remember quite well his defense of lying to the FBI on behalf of Flynn and the rest.

You amuse me with your tireless crying about the CONVICTED murderer, Derek Chauvin…who’ll be ass-raped quite often in prison, where he belongs.

You’re one of the most full of shit humans I’ve ever encountered. You want to “sincere” now, but haven’t been “sincere” a single day I’ve been on this board. You literally defended people who were found guilty or admitted guilt in lying to the FBI, which you then called a setup and whatever other bullshit of the day.
NOW, you just can’t wrap your head around the fact that you’ve been lied to, you’ve chosen ONLY to follow those lies, and when the world doesn’t match up with your lies…you cry out, oh sweet Lord, WHY!!!

Go cry yourself to sleep.

Yet, you had no problem at all with Trump’s “jury” telling the country they had made their decisions BEFORE hearing the case, telling the country how they’d vote BEFORE hearing the case. You never talked about recusal or our justice system, just that Trump was acquitted, was exonerated. No honor, no integrity

You don’t give one shit about our justice system. You’ve shown that regarding Trump time and time again

It wasn’t to you. It STILL isn’t to you. You have energetically defended a coup against the United States, obstruction of justice and defended actual convicted criminals in your party.

But, with relation to this specific case - nobody cared except you. Sussman was accused of lying to the FBI, but we had several Trump administration convicted and admitting to lying to the FBI only to be defended by you Trumpkin traitors for several years, then pardoned and not one of you gave a shit.
I don’t know a single person who gives a fuck about Sussman. I don’t care if he’s convicted and burned at the stake.

But, let’s take a look at your position for the fun of it.

Jurors -

From Jonathan Turley, GOP propagandist and participant in Trump’s initial blackmail of Ukraine -

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So, the inference is that she can’t be impartial because she donated to AOC? Would that mean that you can’t have a juror relating to politics that has a political opinion or has ever done anything related to politics?
Oh, but wait…he has something to say about that.

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Now, the “false collusion claim” was far beyond this claim about the bank. If you remember, WE HAVE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND ADMIN STAFF CONVICTED FOR LYING TO THE FBI (ironically, the same charge in question here) about their communication with Russian assets. Trump was publicly lying about his work in Russia stating he had no projects, nada. His son’s previous statements contradicted that. You have several Russian literally indicted for trying to help Trump. Cambridge Analytica was stealing from Facebook to target ads in direct coordination with Russians. The whole article and narrative trying to be presented is THIS was the catalyst for linking Russians and Trump, that the Clinton campaign and the Steele Dossier was the single reason. That’s horseshit. What you forget is we all have eyes and ears. First, the dossier was financed by the GOP first. Secondly, we all saw what happened. We saw Russia steal from Facebook and work directly FOR Trump. We saw Manafort give Russian polling information. We heard the recordings of McCarthy and Ryan talking about how Trump had to be on Russia’s payroll. To this very day, we see Trump working on behalf of Russians and Russian interests.

Now, the irony of this is almost palpable. The fact that you have the nerve to bring all this up shows how detached from reality you really are.

Well, it does look like we have a two tiered justice system when you look at how Michael Flynn was treated for being coerced to lie to the FBI and Sussmann did the same without the coercion and the jury says that lying to the FBI isn’t a big deal.

Man, every time you type something I am more intrigued by Indiana. You’ve convinced me there isn’t a brain cell in the entire state.

Haha. Come on over. There’s more here than you think. Not a bad state to live in other than the fact that it’s flat as hell.