Ok. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. As with everything, including his inevitable exit, Trump has to make a fool out of himself.
BahahahahahahahahaâŚYup the picture perfect response should be expected off of one case. America is on the same exact curve as 90% of the western world but a perfect response based on intentionally vague and incorrect information. Thank god he didnât do something drastic that early the country would be in ruin instead of just near ruin. Maybe he should have ordered Cuomo and Murphy to send the sick to LTC facilities?
You complete and utter f***ing idiot. Embarrassing yourself just like the old days. Piece of shyt.
Youâre the one defending him. Thatâs whatâs embarrassing.
Talk about snowflakes. Are you going to cry on Jan. 20th? Admit it: you and GSC were two of the people prostrating yourselves in prayer in front of that election office in Michigan werenât you.
Corny attempt at humor while ducking the real argument people are destroying you with in this thread. Thatâs what stupid, biased people doâŚDeflect. And thatâs youâŚAn ignorant, uninformed snowflake, meltdown type, heart-bleeding liberal f**k who thinks some type of utopia with no bad things and problems existâŚthen melts down and blames the rest of us when they find that it doesnât.
Defending him from what? Donald Trump for not fixing the pandemic problems of the world? Especially when he has idiot govenors taking the actions they did? And every death on in America currently being counted as a covid death? For realizing that you canât solve a problem with a bigger problem? Let me guessâŚyou approve of these lockdowns and are in your basement with a mask on?
And Iâm on record saying I believe there was fraud but I doubt it gets overturned. So your little corny attempt at humor holds no weightâŚYouâre a ct. Go find the other snowflake cts Grover and nole80 and save the world together, while making avoiding covid your #1 end all/be all life style.
Such an intelligent, well thought out response.
Such a f**ktard idiotic post from the longtime board idiot waking from his little nervous Trump may win slumber.
Stay in that basement with your mask on, c**t
Hey you donât have to have a temper tantrum because your ayatollah lost to an older Mr Rogers.
Go back with your QAnon friends.
Itâs not a temper tantrumâŚIâm trying to save the board from uninformed idiot c**ts like youâŚWe are having logical discussion. Your stupid overmatched cunty ass is cluttering up the board with emotional liberal cheerleading. Iâll take Qanon over your idols Maddow and Chris Cuomo every day.
Are you married by chanceâŚMan I just know your wife calls the shots. Little soyboy like youâŚLost your nuts a long time ago didnât ya c**t?
We were - until you showed up.
What are you going to do with all those Trump 2020 flags?
Donât own anything Trump relatedâŚAnd donât give one flying f**k about Donald Trump as Iâve said throughout the entire election process. Iâm just anti-snowflake progressive liberal like yourself
Would have voted for a steaming pile of shit (cue 51 cornball lame comebackâŚâhar har you did vote for thatâ) over todayâs democratic party, lockdowns, China, BLM, etcâŚThe real question is why are you ok with these things?
The framers gave the legislatures the ultimate say in this. Both state and federal.
It comes down to that Jan 6 vote.
The only other way would be to declare the insurrection act. But he would need definitive proof of treason and subversion for that. Guess weâll see over the next 2 weeks.
Talk about snowflakes. Youâre the one getting all worked up.
Sorry to hear about your neighbor, 51.
You speak the truth. This pandemic was a slam dunk for Trump. All he needed to do was unite the American people against the threat. Heck, it was the perfect opportunity to turn the countryâs focus on the CCP.
Trump failed miserably.
He failed at leading. He failed at messaging. He failed at uniting.
Now Iâm not one to blame him on the deaths⌠but the above is hard to dispute.
Swine flu was developed faster.
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I may hear you on the CCP thingâŚ
But you are really overrating that some type of âleadershipâ could have overcame this. What would have been better âleadershipâ and what could it have accomplished? The whole western world outside of a handful of countries has failed leadership thenâŚIâm not even defending Trump, you are just overemphasizing both the necessity and the perceived better result that what you defined as better leadership could have obtained.
Messaging and uniting? LolâŚLike there is any desire to unite or compromise on the left. You just typed a fairy tale goal/scenario. All they know in the case of the sheep is Orange Man BadâŚAnd all they know in the part of the elites/establishment/left leaders is Orange Man Really Bad and can really hurt us, so he must be dealt withâŚAnd they successfully dealt with him.
More urgency in taking preventative measures early on.
Encouraging the use of masks, not making fun of them.
Not continuing to have mass gatherings - which likely caused his own positive diagnosis.
Continuously saying it will go away and that it was under controlâŚwhen it wasnât. Remember he said this publicly but admitted to Woodward it was dangerous.
Not trashing medical experts for disagreeing with him.
Not suggesting the use of bleach or sunlight as a treatment.
Expressing empathy for the victims and their families.
Would we still have a lot of infections and deaths? Sadly, yes. But I do think we would have less if he could have had a consistent message around this - and set the example. 73 million people voted for him. A vast majority would take him seriously on this stuff if he had just set an example.
Now, I do think the social unrest had something to do with his election loss. But by and large - this was never Trump vs Biden. This was Trump vs COVID. And COVID won because Trump is incapable of leadership in crisis.
Swine flue vaccine was just another iteration of the yearly flue vaccine.
In contrast, Covid vaccine is NEW technology, and itâs unfair to compare Swine Flue vaccine with Covid. Trump deserve a massive amount of kudos.
You would be hard pressed to fit more purely speculative and then just flat out incorrect statements into one post if you blatantly triedâŚ
-Early onâŚEhhh maybe by a few days. Cant say it would have matteredâŚBut Iâll agree with you within reason. And Impossible to put preventative measures in place any earlier than maybe 3-7 days that he did while running a country⌠and your ideas of preventitive measures probably make no sense at all but hey Iâm all ears.
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He didnât make fun of masks any more than Fauci didâŚAnd he was going by what Fauci and health officials told himâŚHeâs not a health official himself obviously. Also in case you havenât realized, the whole world is wearing masks and they are doing jack shytâŚUK/Sweden/France/ItalyâŚall range between 87 and 98 % mask compliance all late summer and early fall and got hit with the same wave we are getting hit with. Wake up. Also we are wearing masks enough to damn near completely shut down influenzaâŚBut not enough to stop covid? MAYBE ITâS BECAUSE THE MASKS ARENâT WORKING FOR COVID PARTICLES OR YOU ARE CONTRACTING IT OTHER WAYS.
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Mass gatherings? The goal is to have mass gatheringsâŚYou have the right to stay in your houseâŚAnd thereâs been many limits placed for 9 months now. Everyone who went to a Trump rally knew the risk of getting covid. He doesnât care about his own diagnosisâŚFor instance I never think twice besides the bullshyt mandates about getting covidâŚItâs not a goal for me, other than preferring people donât come up in my face and breathe on me, which I was not into well before covid.
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How about the medical experts, too many to count, all with the same type credentials and degrees as the one you choose to listen to that are being trashed for speaking out agains strict mitigation? Google the Great Barrington DeclarationâŚDoctors from all over the world. Why are these people getting very little coverage or being outright silenced? How about the countless doctors that have used HCL and continue to speak on behalf of it and against the smear campaign that was used against early simply because Trump recommended it. Quit picking and choosing your âscienceâ.
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Oh the bleach thingâŚJust stop, thatâs pure comedy and you embarrass yourself more every time you bring it up.
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You just said yourself we would still have deaths? Maybe less ehhh sure? But why donât you speak up about the other things that could have DEFINITELY prevented deathsâŚNot sending the sick to LTC facilities? Also the percentage of deaths are replaced by lockdown deaths AND the economic damage you are doing. Iâll take the path thatâs only beating us on one front.
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Sometimes I think he forgets to show families empathy tooâŚOnly because it could help him. Iâm not for overrating empathy and dwelling in sadness though, Iâm about moving forward.
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You are simply overrating the âexampleâ he didnât set IN YOUR OPINION. He doesnât give one shyt that he got covid, just like I donât give one shyt that I get him. I do care about destroying a whole country for a small percentage of the population when that percent of the population has the right to stay home.
Skeeter, as president of the free world, messaging is a wee bit important.
Like I said, proper messaging couldâve helped unite the country against the CCP. It wouldâve solidified the election for him. I donât think those things are fairy tale scenarios.
Agreed, bikki, but the correction still stands.
Skeeter disagrees with you, obviously.
But one major exhibit to prove that messaging does matter: he lost re-election.