So much for that vaccine

I hope that is correct yet I have a friend that nearly lost his son to mis-c. If Covid were to mutate a little more using the same pathways to cause mis-c but across a broader percentage of kids, we would be in trouble.

Tend to think we won’t see it which means April/May could start to look pretty normal. Fall football, drinks on me at a game! Going to go to at least two games this year and hopefully more every year moving forward.

This is insane though 90. Genetic mutations occur in viruses randomly. It’s not like the virus is actively seeking different routes. That’s not how natural selection works.

1 gene mutates at a time and 99.999999% of the time, those mutations are harmful mutations to an organism.

If this thing suddenly finds different receptors to bind to in our or our children’s generation it would be absolute proof of intelligent design. There’d be no dispute for any reasonable people because the chances of that occurring are insanely rare.

Actually, most viruses mutate all the time. Those mutations don’t always get to the next host as they aren’t as contagious as the first strain the host got. I’d bet there are over 1 million variants of covid-19 in the world right now and only 5-10 that are spreading. Viruses are actively seeking better routes all the time! Just like any other organism that is adjusting to its environment for survival. This is also why most viruses mutate and become less deadly as they have to make sure they aren’t killing their hosts.

I’m not saying the Covid is mutating more than 1 gene at a time but we have around 50M hosts right now so there are unmeasurable numbers of Covid cells in the world which means a large number of mutations per body times 50M bodies. This isn’t absolute proof of intelligent design but simple math.

Totally agree. It’s not even supposed to protect 100% of people. If a vaccine has 98% efficacy, yes, 2% of people can and will be able to get the virus. Is that a reason to laugh the whole thing off as a scam?

I really don’t get the point here…

Not at all. Merck admitted their vaccine wasn’t good, especially compared to more effective vaccines made by others. But I see this point was addressed to death already.

What’s scary is you just don’t know what’s around the corner with this stuff. The 1918 flu negatively effected 20-40 years olds more than any other demographic.

I think people need to understand how a vaccine works, and that the major ones here in the states are two step vaccines, using the new mrna tech. Once you get the second shot, your body still has to process and train it’s immune system to react and develop the antibodies needed. It’s not magic protection once it hits your arm. I’ll be taking mine as soon as offered, but am not expecting that until this summer. The mrna vaccines should also hold up better against mutations!

Generalizing vaccines and comparing polio, measles, flu, covid, etc. and dumping them all in the same bucket is not a smart conversation. People still think their flu vaccine saves them from the stomach flu, then complain they still got the flu?! It’s to protect from respiratory flu, but even that has so many mutations that it’s hard to keep up with. “They also use the old school method of making a vaccine”

PS. flu vaccines are also an entirely different animal because of the sheer mutations that take place, we shouldn’t use them as a comparison.

At the current pace, I would say April to May the vaccines will be publicly available to anyone. J&j says April 100m doses. The other 4 are likely in the 50m/month between now and May putting us at around 200m humans being given the option between now and May. We can remove kids under 13, 50m. We can remove a large percentage of the population that won’t want it. 330-50= 280m-200m leaves 80m to get it after June along with finding a kid vaccine. 200/330=60%. Assuming 20-30% have recovered=26-39m more or 8-12% more of total population which gets us pretty close to herd immunity.

I doubt we reach 80% without finding a youth vaccine and requiring all kids to get the vaccine for public school, likely another 26-30m.

Once we are at 70%, we better be smart about requiring vaccinations to travel to/from USA. New variants could move the goal posts on vaccinations. I would expect boaster shots over the next 2-4 years based on variants. The sooner the world reaches herd immunity the less likely we will need booster shots.

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