RFK drops out…Endorses Trump

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I do mostly blame covid, as in a certain amount of inflation was out of our hands, and there were much worse outcomes as well. Both Biden and Trump contributed to inflation, so you can hardly call Biden’s administration a disaster while citing inflation, especially when Biden’s policies are succeeding at taming inflation.

I think investing in America and creating high paying tech jobs and all that is beneficial and well-received.

What policies specifically?

The public probably thinks inflation and the economy is the biggest issue in every presidential election. I would agree with them, so I’m not sure what you mean.

Are you really blaming Biden for spending?

“…America’s total debt burden increased by $6.7 trillion under Trump and $6.3 trillion under Biden over their four years.”
Who added more to the national debt, Biden or Trump? | Fox Business

How can you blame Biden while praising Trump here?

Biden gave the Federal Reserve the political space to increase interest rates. He buttressed supply chains and helped stabilize gas prices. At the same time, the historic burst of job growth under Biden has continued.
Slowing inflation suggests that Biden's policies are helping, but American voters are still hurting | AP News

Biden was a crook, 305. We watched him on television extorting Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating unregistered foreign agent, and tax cheat Hunter who was peddling influence for exhorbitant pay on the board of Burisma. Why do the Bidens have hundreds of bank accounts?

I’ve been in Kiev,305, and Kiev is wide open when it comes to high priced feminine assistants. Rich oligarchs run the place. Moscow has never been like Kiev. I can assure you of that. Putin has things under wonderful control and has done wonders in improving life in Russia. Why hasn’t Ukraine improved. It’s the second poorest country in Europe, just ahead of Muldova BTW, I have an uncle who lives in Kiev, so I get inside scoop on what is transpiring. Yes, there are Nazis in Ukraine, fewer now since Putin wiped them out in Mariupol, but still some who have infiltrated the army and in charge of making the poor schleps fight a war they wished were over. For all practical purposes, it is over. Over a half million Ukrainians have been killed, all unnecessarily. The killing needs to end, and Ukraine has no whole cards in which to make a deal. The Donbas is Russian not Ukrainian and so is Zaporoshnia, Crimea and Odessa.

Are we discussing alleged crooks or actual convicted crooks?

Except for the Russians STILL RETREATING in Kursk. Let me guess, they’re being taken by surprise every single day? That’s some trick.

I never praised Trump. But some of his spending was COVId related, so it’s not apples to apples.

I’m referring to the fact that the public isn’t buying that Biden is doing a good job on inflation no matter what the numbers say.

305, nearly all the invaders into Kursk have been killed, thousands of them. Most of them have surrendered. In the meantime, Russia has expanded its control westward in the Donbas and closing its pincers on one town after another. The Kursk invasion was extremely foolish on Zelenky’s part and Ukraine will pay dearly for it.

Already Germany is pulling away from supporting Ukraine. It did not help relations that Ukraine was complicit in destroying the Nordstream pipeline. Germany is presently in a state of social discord due to Muslim immigration, and many Germans are choosing to immigrate to Russia where things are more stable and the cost of living more affordable.

Just like in World War II, Russia is capable of manufacturing armaments and has no shortage of manpower or even volunteers for its armies. America never had to send weapons to Russia during WW2, and it was Russia that broke Hitler’s back fighting the two greatest battles in human history, millions of men at arms at Stalingrad and Kursk. Russia’s factories built 2,000 tanks a month during Kursk. Ukraine’s position now is hopeless, and when Trump takes office, he’ll put a stop to spending billions to protract the war. Putin will never permit Ukraine to join NATO, and Europeans forces are no match for the Red Army even with help from the U.S.

In looking at the world, it makes no sense to villainize Russia whose people identify as Europeans. Hatred of Russia is completely unreasonable and unwarranted. Putin is a master statesman, and the most successful politician of the last half century. Of the Russians, he is also the most moderate voice, and if you read what he has written, you’ll find that he has no intentions of annexing any part of Eastern Europe save for a small portion of Moldova that is ethnically Russian. Poland has greater aspirations than Russia for annexing parts of Western Ukraine. Putin lived in German and is not only brilliant but perceives Russia through a Western Civilizational lens. What I fear is what happens when Putin is gone. Trump understands that reproachment with Russia is in the best interest of global peace. The Neocons in the State Department have poisoned the well when it comes to Russia.

Indiana - you really think that inflation would get better under trump. He will keep spending - remember he does not think debt is bad. He will spend and lower taxes. This is a recipe for disaster. He also wants to control interest rates.

It baffles me every day that people support trump. He left the country a mess. You guys are like the team that dominates for three quarters but loses in the end and have excuses why. Biden took over a shit economy on the verge of a recession and we are in much better shape now. If you want to live in denial go ahead.

Bikki, why is it that every dem is a communist or socialist. When is this lie going to die.

Don’t know for sure but willing to give him a shot. Haven’t heard anything from the Harris camp that gives confidence.

They both spent plenty and it was covid related. My point is the covid aftermath made the economy ripe for inflation, and trying to nitpick Biden or Trump policies can be done if you want, but it’s a bipartisan problem so it doesn’t get either side points.

I am aware there is a segment of the population that prefers their own narratives over actual data.

That must mean Russia is retreating from zombies. Got it. Those Ukrainian Nazis just won’t die, will they?

Not true. Germany announced no other funds will go to Ukraine ON TOP OF THE BILLIONS ALREADY ALLOCATED THROUGH 2027. In other words, Germany is offering plenty of support.

No they’re not. By the way, is “cost of living more affordable” code for poor?

Just like in World War II, where the United States provided Russia with lots of funds and materiel, the US is now providing Ukraine with lots of funds and materiel…

Looking at the world through the lens of “Are they European or not” is retarded. Rather, villains are judged by villainous behavior, such as invading a sovereign country and repeatedly committing war crimes.

Putin is a master salesman, and committed the largest unforced error in the modern age by invading Ukraine. He wrecked his country’s economy, killed and wounded hundreds of thousands of his countrymen, ruined his and his state’s reputation, single-handedly expanded NATO to his detriment, and guaranteed that the Ukrainians will hate Russia for as long as your grandchildren are alive.

What I fear is what happens UNTIL Putin is gone. Once that egomaniac is out of the way, lasting peace and unity with Russia can be jump started.

Correct. And that is what elections hinge on, the perceptions of how the economy is doing and who is responsible.

So, while you can say it’s nitpicking on inflation, the general public is holding the Biden administration responsible for inflation.

That’s why I’d still put inflation/economy number 1 in terms of voting.

The vast majority of people aren’t looking into who or what is causing the high prices right now. They are going to blame Biden.

The Economist poll also showed that Americans are—at least on a subjective level—experiencing more inflation than the official statistics indicate. Twenty-six percent of Americans say inflation is the most important issue, followed by 12 percent who say “jobs and the economy” is the most important issue. That number has not changed very much in recent months—and it is in fact much higher than a year ago, when just 18 percent named inflation as the top issue.

I would say it’s much closer to 50% of the public holds Biden responsible and 50% hold Trump responsible, with probably some overlap thinking neither or both.

At the end it’s gonna come down to the election. We both know that. There’s no point using the term “the general public” to mean fans of your candidate.

That’s not usually how it works. Maybe in your bubble. The current economy drives people to vote on how the current administration is doing. Kamala is part of the incumbent administration, not Trump.

I don’t know how you think half the people blame Trump for what’s happened the last 3 1/2 years.

Do you have any data or surveys to back that up?

Any people who believe Biden screwed the economy up can just as easily believe Trump screwed it up.

You can call one of the largest cities in the US a bubble if you want but it’s not gonna get you anywhere. Dems and Pubs are pretty evenly split across the country. If one faction is a bubble, so is the other.

I have economy reports and inflation rates. Anyone with a brain who cares to look it up can see that Biden has been successfully fighting inflation. I don’t know how else to explain that.

I’m not asking about the Los Angeles view, but what is the majority public opinion? Where is your data?

The current economic state (inflation is the largest factor now in surveys), drives voter sentiment.

I don’t believe your assertion that it’s 50/50 blame.

This is from a Market Watch article.

Most people blame the government for inflation. That’s a big problem for Biden.

Published: June 12, 2024 at 6:00 a.m. ET

Hannah Erin Lang
https://www.marketwatch.com/author/hannah-erin-lang)

Consumers pin most of the blame for higher prices on the feds, new research shows. That’s ‘punishing’ for the president, one expert says.

You realize that both Trump and Biden were part of the government, right? Isn’t that my point?

Anyway, this is a dumb road for Trump supporters to go down, since only one of the two candidates for president was ever in charge of United States fiscal policy. (Hint: It’s not Harris.)