Olympic Ceremony Abomination

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You know, this one escaped me at the time, but had me thinking…this is how GSC really views the “alter boys” who’ve been raped by their priests.
First, slander is a lie. I post news articles of priests being caught raping children.
What kind of a person considers those lies and thus slander?

Secondly, he appears to denigrate the “alter boys” who were raped by their priests and thus hate the religion to the point of…lying about said religion?

What kind of an immoral sociopath denigrates the victims and absolves the priests like GSC so regularly does.

proven false

…and there, of course, is your lie. Right on queue…lie about people lying

What absolute trash

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One that wants you to be honest that there is nothing unique about sexual assault and the Catholic Church.

Sexual assault happens everywhere, in every institution.

We are human beings with sexual desires. A certain segment of the population has a disease and that disease is represented everywhere.

Can you just be honest about that?

Or no?

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But, there is something unique about the sexual assault BY the Catholic Church. It’s been going on for longer than anything else and more importantly…the church, itself, has spent decades literally protecting the rapists and attacking the victims.

Sexual assault absolutely happens in all areas of life. But, not to the extent of priests AND pastors AND Clerics and whatever Hindus have (not just the Catholic Church and not just Christianity). They, by and large, protect the culprit and attack the victims. No other institution claims direct lineage or authority from God, so that DOES make it worse than if it happened at the Boy Scouts or on a Volleyball team.

You, however, disregard that entirely. Further, you lie. You lied about me lying. Did you address that? Did you address you lied about the ‘scar’ of Trump’s? You lie all the time, for years, and never once acknowledge any of it.

You haven’t the ability to be an honest man, it appears.

“Or no?”

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The God Myth is deeply rooted in human history and traverses all humanity on the planet. Nevertheless, gods themselves fall from favor among humans, who have complete disdain for forgotten gods. In Egypt for example you’ll find no worshipers of Osiris or Ra, but Allah reigns supreme in the minds of most Egyptians.

Religion can also be forced upon people, which has notably been the case with both Islam and Catholicism. That there is fluidity in human belief leads me to deduce that ultimately science will prevail over mythology. In the meantime, people will continue prattling about praying for this and for that, and if serendipitously someone experiences say a cancer regression, it will be regarded ridiculously as a gift from God. Conversely, if the cancer patient dies, it is just “the will of God,” which is not understandable to mere humans who must supplicate themselves always to the superior god ruler while living in a delusive state.

Yes, I can see what troubles Warden. Life without justice should trouble all civilized humanity.

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We could talk about how Catholic Crusaders literally ate a city…of humans, during the Siege of Ma’arra. Want to talk about that? Does that happen everywhere?

What about the Crusaders stealing children on the way to the Holy Lands, where they never made it to on this first Crusade?

We could talk about the Catholic Church forcing mothers to give away their babies because they were unwed. By 1998, 50,000 women had their babies stolen from them in just Ireland by your church.

We could talk about an entire Jewish population of a city (Segovia) was slaughtered by your church bc they had an earthquake they blamed on “host desecration” and therefore must be the Jews.

We have centuries of people being tortured and murdered by your church for simply not believing them.

Your church refused to denounce fascism and Naziism, helped Nazis escape after the war. Want to talk about that one instead? Did you local volleyball team do that one?

Want to talk about the Magdalene Laundries of Ireland where your church imprisoned women from the 18th to the late 20th centuries, murdering hundreds and laying in unmarked graves?

Hell, the Divine Right of Kings came from your church. We could spend a month just on that. Every horror experienced by people on 6 continents came directly from your church.

Want to talk about Pope Pius XII denying eyewitness accounts of mass executions during the Holocaust?

What about terrorizing Jews and Muslims for hundreds of years?

Want to talk about Pope Boniface VIII? Practically everything he did was an nightmarish. From raping children to forcing a mother and daughter into a 3way. Dante expected him in the 8th circle of hell

What about burning Joan of Arc for dressing like a man? In fact, what about the Spanish Inquisition? What about burning William Tyndale for making a vernacular bible so the masses could actually read it?

What about absolving sin for cash payments and the sale of indulgences?

What about orchestrating the fall of the Templars to appease a broke ass king?

What about burning John Wycliffe 43 years after he died because he upset some Catholics?

What about the Joust of Whores where Pope Alexander VI forced 50 women to strip and grovel at his feet while he watched men rape them, offering fine clothes and jewelry to the man who could rape the most women, while throwing chestnuts at them? Want to talk about that instead?

What about Judaism being a crime in itself to the Catholic Church during the Inquisition, the Roman one this time? How many were slaughtered and tortured?

How about imprisoning Galileo?

Did the volleyball team at your local high school do all this too? We literally have over 1000 years of this shit, in the name of God, by your church.

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Bikki, honest question why do you truly believe people have faith in an invisible man. People put faith in something they can’t see, can’t touch.

There was one philosopher who was on his death bed. Forgot which one but a priest came to him. After the priest listened to the man, he gave up religion. People have proven it is bs…I do believe having some faith is good. I feel it grounds people. I also think my son going to a Christian school last year and a teacher telling him I won’t go to heaven because I am Jewish is over the top.

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It’s the oldest surviving institution in existence.

Union lawyers and rubber rooms accomplish the same thing buddy.

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…and by far the most corrupt of any institution in the history of all humanity

Like always, defending the church’s rapists, defending the church’s efforts to protect the rapists and attack the victims. Rubber rooms only exist in NY. Did the Catholic Church only rape kids in NY? Further, do union lawyers and rubber rooms hide the reporting of sexual abuse like your church does? Do they reassign the teacher out of the area so no prosecution can happen?

Just another example of the lack of basic morality on behalf of GSC. From being inherently dishonest to being inherently immoral, you are consistent. No wonder you have no problem with a rapist who forced little girls to get dressed in front of him and was sued for raping a 13 yr old with his pal Epstein doesn’t bother you in the slightest.

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And also one of the foremost forces of good in the world. Between hospitals and charities and caring for the poor and marginalized and sick. Homeless shelters and food pantries and all sorts of institutions are run by Catholic organizations.

So yes, there have been terrible events and people in the Church. But as GSC said, all human organizations have sin and evil.

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Got any data on that?

You mean the hospitals that don’t treat people who don’t comply with their beliefs, then not telling the patient that’s the reason they are refused service, so many go into the depths of pain waiting for actual treatment?

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Is their hospital system a charity or a for-profit business?
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I’m sure the other stuff is legit, not being sarcastic. I’m sure there is a myriad of great stories. Unfortunately, because of bias I am sure, I think back to stories of Mother Theresa who was so in love with suffering that she and her crew collected people who had very treatable conditions only to literally just sit there and watch them die as it was somehow Christ-like suffering. She received hundreds of millions in donations over the years, but never built a single hospital or really shit…still having people begging for food. She did, of course, use a lot of that $ to start Sisters of the Poor around the world.

That they do, however, they don’t all claim to be direct authorities on God with the word of God through them. Also, they didn’t eat towns of human beings or murder tens of thousands in Inquisitions. We’ll not talk about the Catholic mental institutions of the past. Pretty bad.

What’s weird is the level of authorities committed by the church and how those are just brushed off by the congregants. Eh…everybody is good and bad. It’s the media’s fault. Maybe Obama did it.

I will say, of all of the religions and sects and churches we’re talking about…and I’ve said this before, the Catholic Church is one that I favor. Kind of surprising, but put against any Islamic faction I think it’s pretty easy to figure out which one is better. Put against the modern version of Evangelicalism, which I think we born of outright fraud and a thirst for both political power and money, it’s zero contest. At least, from what I’ve seen, most in the Catholic Church at least want to do good.

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Fair enough. I hate the scumbags in the Catholic Church as much as the next person. I was furious when the findings on the abuse scandal and the coverups came out. And I know some of the leadership of Catholic Church is rotten.

I think it’s their own fault membership is declining and people left because of the scandals and also because of just falling away during COVID.

I have a brother that is a priest so I get some of the inside baseball from time to time and the politics come into play in the organization.

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Yup gotcha…Religion bad

Cutls though? Cults are good…Progressive liberalism Cult…Undisputed CHAMP!

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Cults have to have a religious aspect, by definition. As with most things, you’re the Undisputed Champ of being full of shit.

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That’s right, the entire church is at fault and not the individuals that performed the heinous acts and the subsequent coverups. Blame the entire church. :roll_eyes:

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The church administration covered it up for decades, including a Pope. Absolutely, blame the church. Who do you think spent decades hiding it and moving the priests around to avoid prosecution, Mickey Mouse? Man, the free pass you all give to your churches is astounding. No wonder the priests rape children for centuries, nobody seems to give a shit.

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Tyranny enduring for centuries is indeed blameworthy. This does not mean that all religious adherents are morally warped, but church leadership to correct abusive behavior has been unsuccessful, in some cases for thousands of years. Inventing invisible gods and preaching what is palpably false is of itself a testament to human fatuity.

While I once admittedly wanted to drown Warden in bayou bilge water, which might have done him a world of good, I find Warden’s thinking on this matter to be eminently logical and IMO correct.

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Finally! You narrowed it down to the ones who should be held responsible. The actual people who should be accountable for what happened. Those individuals are responsible. Not the ones who actually live by the teachings of Christ! The ones who absolutely turn their backs on Christ and his teachings to satisfy their own selfish desires. If anything, I blame whom ever thought of the rule that a priest is not allowed to marry. There’s nothing biblical about that. That definitely contributed to what happened to those poor children.

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I have to disagree with you here. Do married men not commit these acts?

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The answer is yes, they do commit such acts. My statement is not meant to imply that it is the sole reason, but one of many contributing factors. The main factor in why someone would do such a thing is the condition of their heart.

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Looks like the organizer did intend to mock Christians, according to those in the ceremony. So, looks like the outrage was warranted.

While organizers attempted to deflect criticism by insisting that the exhibition was meant to evoke the Greek Feast of Dionysus rather than the Last Supper, several of the performers declared that producer Thomas Jolly had made it clear from the start that the scene was created to imitate the Last Supper.