But this is like saying “How can you know this guy died from the booster when you can’t see if he would’ve died without it?”
I mean, if you require alternate timelines for proof then we can prove nothing.
But within the means of science, we do have ways to measure a vaccine’s success.
Indeed.
But not in the way GSC wants it, so he just ignores it and instead relies on GWP and tik tok in order to try to prove a point he knows is wrong.
Just show me the clinical methodology.
How do you control for the counter factual?
What the fuck are you talking about? The data is the data.
Jesus. You post an article of an autopsy saying a guy died because of the vaccine. This is your way of saying the vaccine should be pulled.
Show me the clinical methodology.
You are completely ignoring the very obvious fact that the vaccine is saving lives and keeping people from being seriously ill vs those who are not.
It’s not even worth having this conversation.
I had a very simple question. It seems you can’t answer it.
And I don’t fault you for it…. I can’t either. It’s an amazing little trick they set up.
What? I’ve clearly answered it. The data is there.
You’re acting like this this the first vaccine ever.
Again, you’re choosing to ignore the obvious because you can’t admit that you’re wrong.
And you got the vaccine.
850,000 dead Americans because of COVID. You barely bat an eye. 2 people die because of the vaccine and it’s the worst thing ever.
You aren’t fooling anyone.
The thing about GSC is he’s a skeptic… only when he’s dealing with something he doesn’t believe. When the scientific study or poll backs his personal view, all his skepticism is tossed out the window.
And when it doesn’t, he just ignores it.
Why won’t anyone just answer my question?
How can one prove, clinically, that a vaxxed person with mild symptoms wouldn’t have had mild symptoms non vaxxed?
And conversely, how can we prove, clinically, that a non vaxxed wouodnt have had severe symptoms if they were, indeed vaxxed.
I’m just trying t mo understand guys. Please enlighten me.
What test and controls could we put in place to accomplish the above?
What don’t you understand here? Vaxed people are far less likely to develop severe disease/hospitalization/death vs those who are not vaccinated.
This data has been posted more than one. Stop pretending to be StormFront and go look at the data. It’s very clear.
I don’t think you understand what I’m saying.
I clearly understand what you’re saying. And you are clearly ignoring data that proves my point.
Lol…Could you imagine if I would have said “2”…The way this half-retarded, hypocrite cunt…Would have screamed and cried that it was more than “2”
I’ll feed the troll
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765
I mean this took me about 12s to find.
So djrion - placebo in a double blind study is your answer.
Hmmmm. I’d have to look this over and get a sense for how they conducted these clinical studies.
Don’t bother. Just say you don’t look at studies that disagree with the view you want and just move on.
I just don’t know if I agree that a placebo and double blind negates the ever present counter factual.
Just my opinion.
Not to mention- might be hard to sell a placebo with a vaccine. There are certain immediate effects that are derived from vaccines that you can hide.
You can’t ever answer this for a specific individual unless you can go Dr. Strange on the problem and play with multiple timelines.
The way you determine the efficacy of a vaccine is by analyzing bulk data.
For example, we don’t know the measles vaccine works because John McCudgeon who works at Home Depot never got measles, right? We look at the big picture.
We know what hospital loads were like pre-vaccine. Post-vaccine, we can record data like if and when a patient was vaxxed, and we can analyze outcomes for vaxxed versus unvaxxed. This is never a guarantee about any specific case, mind you, but the larger statistical trend bears out the truth.
That said, I have no intention of getting in the way of you digging into djrion’s placebo study.
Imagine this CUNT…Accusing anyone of this
Total fucking cunt.
Lol…Because those lies were never exposed huh? Stories weren’t retracted huh?
They are doomed to this sheephood for life.