Even Vice qualified it more than you did.
and seemed to suggest that in some cases, “even violent” marriages should continue.
“Seemed”
These hit pieces are such trash. I liked Hillbilly Elegy. Good movie. Vance himself? Opportunist. That’s clear.
In any case, I agree that every last precaution and measure should be taken before ending a marriage. And that’s because the worst way to traumatize a child and put them in a life long tough situation is via divorce.
Number 1 indicator for physical abuse of a child? Divorce/step parent
Number 1 indicator for sexual abuse? Divorce/step parent
Go down the line, struggling with education, and a million other things. Divorce.
So the guy’s sentiment and instinct is correct. And they go pervert the message with this idiocy.
Jesus you are a turd burger. Every claim this POS Vance makes, they elequently refute with data points. Guy goes into hiding. Guy never responds once factual claims are presented.
Now that I’m thinking about it, sounds like someone else I know…
You’re assuming every marriage results in a child. But, moreso…you’re emphatic about the #1 indicators for all kinds of things are divorce. Pray tell…by what data set?
The CDC doesn’t list divorce as an indicator of such things.
In fact, I think you’re flat out lying. From abortion access to your Christian nationalism, at every opportunity you appear to want to remove options from women. I see it listed in the context of having already violent parents and the violence itself caused the divorce, then was passed down to the kid, but obviously the divorce itself didn’t make them violent.
Nah, Vance wants to enact the Handmaids Tale and you’re not far off
No- I’m simply making a statement about those marriages.
Personally I think all marriages should be attempted to be saved. It’s a sacred contract. But I understand some can’t survive.
It’s an interesting read, but a few things…
First, it doesn’t support your statements that divorce is the #1 indicator of this or that…the article makes no statements as such. It does, however, list a few things oddly…like children of divorce and remarriage are 20-25 times more likely to struggle. That’s quite vague. Then, it lists things like, “If their parents find new partners, children are 40 times more likely than those who live with biological parents to be sexually or physically abused.”
The curious thing is it lists a single study in which the link doesn’t work. It lists a link, additionally, to Aha! Parenting as the source, simply a website by Laura Markham…just an author who makes a living off of speaking and the website, but doesn’t list any data supporting it.
Further reading shows Ms. Markham and the author, Amy Wright Glenn consistently citing each other and then linking to each other. Seems weird. No idea on the data except that this is not supporting your claims of it being #1 and lists no data.
I showed the CDC. You gave me a PhillyVoice website article that talks about remarriage being the key indicator and also has no data.
None of this backs up JD Vance…who was discussing people in violent marriages shouldn’t be allowed to get a divorce. I’d suggest that a violent marriage is a pretty good indicator of physical abuse on the child.
He doesn’t care about truth. He cares about upholding his fairy tale religion.
If GSCl 
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Why don’t the other Christians on this site call him out?
I believe that’s kind of how it works, historically. People who think they have righteousness on their side have a remarkable ability to rationalize their actions as long as its in the direction of where they want to go.
I don’t always agree with GSC. But you guys accuse him of lying all the time, even in instances where he just links an article or tries to prove a point.
You don’t, like his source? I can respect that. Doesn’t mean he’s lying though.
I will grant you that he rarely admits he was wrong.
They are obsessed with me. You don’t see that?
Abstract
Analysis of interviews obtained from a random sample of 930 adult women in San Francisco revealed that 17% or one out of approximately every six women who had a stepfather as a principal figure in her childhood years, was sexually abused by him. The comparable figures for biological fathers were 2% or one out of approximately 40 women. In addition, when a distinction was made between Very Serious Sexual Abuse (including experiences ranging from forced penile-vaginal penetration to non-forceful attempted fellatio, cunnilingus , and anal intercourse) and other less serious forms, 47% of the cases of sexual abuse by stepfathers were at the Very Serious level of violation compared with 26% by biological fathers. Possible explanations for these starting discrepancies are discussed, and some of the implications for remarriage are considered.
Father Figures vs. Biological Fathers in the Home
Results of the 2009 study showed that families living with a man who was not the biological father of all the children in the home, and families living without a man in the home, were significantly more likely to be contacted by CPS compared to families in which the biological father of all the children lived with the mother.
The following year, a report on the National Incidence Study of Abuse and Neglect, which examines not only CPS cases but all reported incidences of abuse and neglect to community professionals, also found that maltreatment rates differed according to family structure.[2] Children living with their married biological parents had the lowest rate of abuse and neglect, whereas those living with a single parent who had a partner living in the household had the highest rate. Compared to children living with married biological parents, those whose single parent had a live-in partner were at least 8 times more likely to be maltreated in one way or another. They were 10 mores more likely to experience abuse and 8 times more likely to experience neglect.
A 2001 study by Aruna Radhakrishna and colleagues at the University of North Carolina followed 644 North Carolina newborns for eight years. These babies were mostly from families considered at high risk of abuse or neglect based on the characteristics of the mother and infant at birth. Researchers found that maltreatment was lowest among children who lived with two biological parents.[3] Maltreatment was most common in homes with a stepfather or boyfriend, with 80% of the maltreatment occurring between birth and age 4, 20% between ages 4-6, and 27% between ages 6-8. Unlike the 2009 study, however, this one found no significant difference in maltreatment rates between kids living with both parents and kids living with only their biological mother.
A limitation of this study is that the person doing the abusing or neglecting was not identified. Therefore, in homes with a stepfather or boyfriend, it is unclear whether the mother or surrogate father was abusing or neglecting the child.
There’s only really 2 of you. Bikki supports mass murders, is openly racist, and thinks rich men can and should watch little girls get dressed because they’re rich and can. Skeeter doesn’t ever make actual posts with substance, just acts like the little kid in a Christmas Story who tags along with the bully. Storm is banned.
So, like…there’s 2. Who the fuck are we going to talk shit about? Indiana seems like an actual nice guy. I mean, disagree or not, he seems to be honest and genuine. That leaves you…
Huh?
Me, bikki, Indiana, mrcd, Storm (But you guys booted him), SilentObserver. There’s more but you guys ran them off on the old board.
I’m just astonished that anyone on the left still admits they are on the left anymore. You guys are now defending people singing about converting kids to lgbtq.
Another lie
You view that not hating someone is therefore indoctrinating, showing again you’re driven by hatred of others and a habitual liar. Further, you openly support the coup, openly support attacking our allies and supporting our enemies, and ally yourself with those who are pathological fraudsters. You’ve shown a sincere lack of morality and integrity. The ironic thing is you act this way about literally people showing nothing more than acceptance of gay people, saying by doing so they’re indoctrinating children…yet, you always defend the Catholic Church…who raped children for centuries and hid it.
Dimwits don’t get irony, I suppose
MRCD- haven’t seen in forever. Silent, same. Cry all you want. It’s a free country, free board. Get better at debating or go cry.
Model Christian
Shit is fucking hilarious
At least he can ask forgiveness and wash it all away… To make up for a terrible life.
great source. I love when “neutral” sources openly demonstrate biases.
Warden misses me. Awe…
Snuggles
hope you’re well.