I think this is a fair position. You get it you are covered. You don’t then you assume your own risk.
Much like every other tough decision you make in life.
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Careful with this. This goes both ways.
Did you read his rationale for it?
Because he believes the majority of unvaxxed are Trump republicans. And he literally wants them to die (yes, I inferred that part on my own).
If it wasn’t the case he wouldn’t have qualified it with that premise.
He’s a sick twisted puppy.
Listen, everyone wants to be on a team. They pick a side and draw a line in the sand. Not very American if you ask me. However, the vaccine debate is going to be one that drives a stake in the divide in the country for a long time. Red states won’t comply and blue states will. Simple as that. Jersey is a blue state but very very union heavy with many immigrants who are not willing to get the vaccine. Jersey is a union state with huge political backings and funding that go towards the Democratic Party. This will be interesting to see where this goes in the next few months. I for one have made my decision. I had covid. I had a runny nose for a day and a half and my qualitative antibody count is over <1800. That’s higher then most vaccinated. Im position is clear. Im not getting the vaccine. However I would support your right to do so if you choose.
I support anyone’s position to get or abstain as well.
Same as I would support women’s rights, BLM and LGBT. Im consistent in my approach. Although some don’t agree with my politics (I don’t expect everyone to) I will always be on the side of personal attonomy.
I can find a common ground with anyone. I don’t follow my political party like a religion. It’s not that important to me. Friendships are.
I don’t know a thing about you, but reading through your responses you come across as a really unlikeable guy.
I don’t really have anything else to add to a guy who just says scoreboard. Worthless conversation.
So true…People simply don’t know how to “not be on a side”
Cij killing it in this thread.
Yup, agree with everything CiJ said. And GSc summed it up nicely:
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I could do without the guilt-tripping of people who don’t get the jab, and I could do without calling vaxxed people sheep. Just let people have personal autonomy.
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And you wanted me and my family to be the first to die to help with over population. Get the fuck off your high horse like he really wants you to die and you really want me to die.
For all the tough guy talk on this board, I don’t wish covid or death on anyone and would have to think deep down everyone on here would think the same. If you wouldn’t then you haven’t dealt with enough death up close and personal OR you are one sick fucker.
That’s not what I said.
YOU said you were for population decline. I just wanted to know how you would feel about that proposition if it were you or your family that were the ones on the bad side of the equation.
Don’t extrapolate my words as a threat or some kind of moral soap box.
It was the logical next question.
It’s easy to say “x” number of people would be better off dead when you never consider yourself or your loved ones in that equation.
If that gets you upset maybe you should rethink your position instead of getting offended for a thought experiment YOU brought up.
I’m fucking torn on the vaccine in many ways.
Cons
- They are trying to sell that it is effective but the latest data shows it doesn’t stop this shit nearly as well with Delta.
- Does it really make that big of a difference? I know multiple people now that have had it multiple times with the vaccine.
- If it doesn’t stop the spread nearly as well as stated then why require vaccine for entry to divide the country?
Pro
- It appears to have lowered the death rate.
- It appears to have lowered the hospitalization rate.
- It has extended the run way for other anti-virals YET they havent been developed. Where is that WARP SPEED project?
- If Delta is the worst of Covid, the vaccine with a potential Moderna booster gets us to the end of this pretty soon. I doubt it is the end but there haven’t been any new Variants since India’s Delta. Looks like Lambda could be the next, yay fuck.
"Unreal.
Are you or any of your family the one of the ones that’s got to go?"
Leave out the Unreal and I can see it as the logical next question. Add the “Unreal” and it means something different.
I didn’t take it personal at all. I didn’t have more kids not because I hate kids but because I believe we are over populating. Not to detour this thread as it is a good one.
If anything, the declining birth rate means we have a problem on our hands in the future. The US had the lowest birth rate in decades and it’s been declining for quite some time. It was at the point that we weren’t at the minimum replacement rate.
Look at China, they are allowing people to have a third child now because they have a replacement rate problem.
Now, if you want to allow unlimited immigration, maybe that problem doesn’t matter. I don’t want that.
Lizard people!
WHERE DID I USE PROJECTED NUMBERS?
ARE YOU SAYING THERE IS NO WHERE TO GET TOTALS WITH COVID?