IF STORM OR SOMEONE CLOSE TO STORM GOT SICK DOES THAT CHANGE THAT MASKS DON’T WORK?
DOES IT CHANGE THAT THE CHANCES OF THAT HAPPENING ARE 99.8%+ BECAUSE STORM IS IN GREAT SHAPE AND EATS WELL AND HAS DONE THAT SINCE HE WAS 16?
DOES IT CHANGE THAT ALL MY FAMILY HAS A 99+% OF BEING OK WITH OUT A VACCINE?
NO IT DOESN’T…
LOOK AT THE NUMBERS SKEETER PUT UP…
IT IS THE FCKEN FLU OR LESS LIKE WE TOLD YOU LAST YEAR…
Since we can’t do a controlled study we will likely never know. Instead, your opinion is that it was engineered to kill every non-Asian. You argue that delta and alpha are 99.7% the same so why don’t the vaccines work. Asian, European, and African dna share 99.97%. Thus, it doesn’t mutate to stick to just that .03% of unshared DNA while spreading in the wild? That .03% contains a bunch of mixed DNA’s for multi-racial people.
Your opinion is 100% nature based with zero impact from nurture YET you have said prior that it is only the other risk factors that kill people. If Asians take better care of themselves, wear masks, wash hands, avoid gatherings, get vaccinated… would that not be primary factors vs secondary? Or do you believe there is no one to avoid it if you have non-Asian dna?
No- this is inaccurate. Delta is 1 amino acid different than Alpha. 1 amino acid.
51 posted it yesterday. It’s even closer than 99.97% to alpha.
I’m not committed to thinking it’s dna that is the difference. Could be habit. Could be an antidote like I said. It’s just funny that Asian countries (Oriental, not Hindu) have been spared.
But then again, so have Africa and Middle East.
And Chinese nationals are very active in those areas. Chinese military is all over Africa.
It isn’t just America’s. There isn’t a country that isn’t impacted. Some are greater than others but by in large, none have gone untouched. Now back to the proof of China having a working vaccine or anti-viral “antidote.” Where is the proof? Why would they send a failed vaccine to trading partners and important agriculture exporters? China would starve without food imports.
My stats also had hospitalizations which are also increasing at a rate not seen in 2020. Am I saying the sky is falling, NO! I simply said we could argue about them all day because data isn’t perfect when it is grouped together from different sources.
Yes, you could apply the higher hospitalizations for kids and lower for adults would validate that vaccines are working. There are many ways to validate they are working and many ways to show they aren’t (transmissions). In the end, I’m going to stick to my one point: Moderna is holding up better than any other vaccine to date. Even after 6-8 months, the Moderna was 76% effective at blocking transmission of Delta. Is it 95%, no! Is it 40% like Pfizer and others, no!
I want to see how Moderna holds up against Lambda and time. If a booster is needed every year to block transmission at 75-95% on a curve, I can get on-board with this as it will reduce the spread and the risk. Now if it is 95 to 40% like Pfizer on a 6 month curve, I believe we need to find better solutions.
China - 4,600 deaths to date. Is the epicenter of COVID. Ground zero.
S Korea - 2,200 deaths (adjacent neighbors 
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Vietnam - 8,600 deaths
Myanmar - 14,300 deaths
Japan - 15,600 deaths
Why? This is a respiratory pathogen. It shouldn’t discriminate. But orientals and Muslims seem to have been spared (I didn’t list the Muslim nations but I assure you there numbers are fractions of the rest of the world.
I’m not claiming to have answers. I’m claiming to have questions, suspicions, hunches…
There’s a pattern emerging.
1st world or nationalist, hit hard. 3rd world and open to Chinese influence, spared.
Mid-east:
Turkey 6M+ 55k deaths - 82M population
Iran 5M 100k deaths (BIG PARTNER) - 83M population - death per cap close to USA
Iraq 1.8M 30k deaths - 39M population
Russia 6.6M 175k deaths (BIG PARTNER) - 144M - death per cap close to USA
Asia - I have yet to find a single Asian country that isn’t in some form of lockdown.
Indonesia 4M 127k deaths - 270M population
Thailand 1M 10k deaths - 69M population
Malaysia 1.5M 15K deaths - 32M population
Japan 1.3M 15K deaths - 100M population
Philippines 1.8M 32k deaths - 108M population
Vietnam 350k 9k deaths - 96M population
Burma 375k 14k deaths - 54M population
South Korea 240k 2k deaths (NOT FRIENDLY) - locked down - 52M population
Tiawan 16k 800 deaths (NOT FRIENDLY) - locked down - 24M population
Your theory gets crushed when we look at non-oriental countries like these:
Finland - 120k 1k deaths (travel to requires proof of vaccine within 14 days of travel)- 5.5M population
Norway - 150k 800 deaths (still locked down as of July 28th) - 5M population
Australia - 45k 1000 deaths (still locked down as of now) - 25M population
Iceland - 10k 300 deaths (travelers have to show negative tests, most domestic restrictions were lifted in June 2021) - 350k population
New Zealand - 3k 26 deaths (still locked down as of now) - 5M population
Combined: 40M population, 330k cases, 3100 deaths.
Extrapolated to USA: 26k deaths
Lockdowns= less deaths and cases no matter of race or type of government.
You will trust their numbers but don’t trust them when they say it is from a meat market. Even Trump has said their real numbers are a ton higher.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-02/trump-claims-china-had-thousands-more-virus-deaths-than-reported
India- 20% muslim - 32M 430K deaths (3rd world with 20% muslim - Asian)
Turkey 6M+ 55k deaths - 82M population (1st world-mostly muslim)
Iran 5M 100k deaths - 83M population - death per cap close to USA (3rd world muslim)
Iraq 1.8M 30k deaths - 39M population (3rd world muslim)
Malaysia 1.5M 15K deaths - 32M population (3rd world muslim - Asian)
Bangladesh 1.4M 25K deaths - 190M population (3rd world muslim - Asian)
Morocco 800k 12k deaths - 37M population (3rd world muslim - Africa)
Libya 300k 4k deaths 6M population (3rd world muslim - Africa)
Now I’d love to overlay population density with this data as I have a strong feeling that most of the deaths are in big cities with no lockdowns that allowed the virus to spread before some restrictions were put in place. For example: Lima Peru accounts for almost 50% of all their deaths.
Thus, the number 1 way to avoid Covid is to avoid people! Number 2 would be youth and health (including washing your hands). Number 3 would be Moderna if you live near lots of people and are old or unhealthy.
3rd world country outbreaks are mostly in cities. Why? People traveled to those cities with covid and it spread. How many people traveled to Kabul for vacations or work? Now ask how many traveled to the mountains of Afghanistan to meet with the Taliban.
If the USA wants to end Covid in the USA, lock down the southern border! Implement testing on all travel into the USA and wait! Delta will go away and new variants will find it nearly impossible to get in. Proof is in the numbers above with Asian, Australian, and European countries.
4.5 million deaths to date globally. You think your numbers presented represent a significant portion of that number?
90s…Some of your numbers are WAAAAYYY OFF according to worldometers, especially on the muslim countries. Or you have a weird way of defining “hit hard” or “Close to USA”
Malaysia, Bangladeh, Morocco??? Not even in the same stratosphere but that is basically making GSC’s point for him…
Will get to this more if I have time later…But even the ones you pointed out as “death per cap close to USA” are not
Russia and Iran for instance about 60-65% death per capita of the USA…That is not “close” and those are the only ones even “close” (by your definition).
60-70% is close when you consider Iran as a 3rd world country with limited testing and data. Russia much like China will not provide real data. Both of them continue to use Lockdowns to mitigate the virus while the USA does nothing of the sort.
I got the number from John Hopkins ArcGIS Dashboards
Find me any country that is in the same stratosphere as the USA. You can’t! I found 40M worth of non-muslim/non-asian people that have not been impacted with similar numbers to the Asian countries. The common thread=lockdowns!
If you want to connect Covid to a population, connect it to Consumers! Europe and the USA are fat and happy people that consume a ton of alcohol, sugars, TV, and other things that lead to unhealthy humans. You can also connect it to countries that travel a ton and haven’t restricted travel.
GSC’s own data invalidates his own argument. African DNA is impacted at a higher rate unless we remove nuture factors like those mentioned above.
Does it impact Muslims? yes (see Iran, India)
Does it impact Africans? yes (see GSC’s chart)
Does it impact Asians? All of them are locked down but one could make a case for this based on GSC’s chart of US Asians. The best we can do is compare deaths per cases:
Thailand: .9%
Indonesia: 3%
Malaysia: 1%
Japan: 1.1%
Philippines: 1.8%
Vietnam: 2.5%
Burma: 3.7%
South Korea: .8%
Tiawan: 5%
Compared to:
USA: 1.66%
To say Asian’s don’t get it means you are looking at testing data. If you are looking at testing data, then the above data shows it impacts Asians when it is allowed to spread in their countries.
Thank you.
I’m at work and don’t have the time to rebut but yea- noticed the same thing in 2 minutes.
And my chart refers to African Americans, not all blacks. African countries have been relatively untouched.
Which is weird because their medical infrastructure and hygiene would lead one to believe they’d be decimated by Covid.
Mid-east: 185k deaths (3 countries)
Asia: 850k deaths (12 countries) with lots of muslims.
Australia: 1026 deaths (2 countries) out of 30M
As for variances, Iraq is the only one I see different between worldometer and JHU. I haven’t looked at every single country with low deaths.
40-50% of Asia’s deaths are India.
It’s obvious to me that this thing is targeted. But you are free to believe what you want.
I can agree that Asian data provides no means of proving or disproving your point. What I disagree with is your point on it not targeting muslims and African DNA.
Asia’s deaths include Russia as well which is 20%. Why would China do that to Russia, Iran, Germany, USA etc when all of us either import from China (providing income) or export to China (providing goods/food/oil…)? The motive is lacking outside of “FUCK it got out before we could fine-tune it to only attack American’s!”
I will read through it 90s…
But it seems like you are applying “context” selectively…Obviously other factors CLEARLY play a role, no doubt about it. But you started the convo with raw numbers and then start using “context” when it’s in your favor
I mean we can get into the fact that they were counting in “previously had” covid as a covid death in America and Europe…I doubt they are in Malaysia and Iran
