From the article:
Ramthun, who in November introduced a resolution to rescind Wisconsin’s Electoral Colleges votes that were certified on Jan. 6, introduced a bill on Dec. 30 that would permit the nullification of an election and the mandating of a do-over 30 days later in some circumstances.
Those circumstances include where the total number of absentee ballots exceeds the margin of victory, which, under his bill, would necessitate a forensic audit. (In the November 2020 elections, almost 2 million Wisconsinites voted by absentee ballot, and Biden won by about 21,000 votes.)
Seems completely reasonable to me.
It would to you. You’re a traitor to this nation. This takes disputing the elections out of the courts and makes it 100% partisan and political.
So you think it’s ok to have more mail in ballots than exceeds the margin of victory? Lol.
Well- you will until a Republican wins that way. And then you’ll love this law. Because you’re a partisan.
There’s nothing wrong with that. It just means there’s a close election. As I recall Bush won Florida by such a margin.
There’s absolutely something wrong with it. We had chain of custody issues all over this election. The more mail in ballots the more potential fraud there is. Very very simple to understand.
A problem is a problem. Chain of custody issues, for example, are a problem.
But numbers aren’t a problem. We can’t pre-predict the margin of victory, so automatic judgments about something being a problem based on margin of victory is nonsensical.
The point is that mail in ballots are the absolute WORST and LEAST SECURE voting mechanism. They are fraught with potential fraud. And so if the victory is due to them, they should all be forensically examined. Logic makes perfect sense. I would support it on the flip side as well.
That’s another lie. 100% a lie.
Really? The entire Trump administration voted that way.
In fact, let’s take a look at that, shall we? Utah is 90% white. Utah also have 100% mail in voting.
Ever heard anything about fraud or mail in voting being bad or literally ANYTHING like that in Utah?
No? I wonder why…being a fully red, Republican state and all.
Face it. The only time you’re concerned about mail in ballots is when more people are using them and thus voting. It’s more people voting you don’t like… Least secure my ass.
You and your entire party tried to disregard the votes of the people of the United States. You don’t care about fraud. You openly want to subvert our Constitution and support the attempted insurrection.
Hell, our soldiers vote by mail.
No you wouldn’t. You’re a full fledged liar and most of all, you’re a Qanon supporter. You’ve admitted it. Logic and integrity are foreign concepts to you
So it’s not 100% mail in voting but they allow the option. But more so, Utah has strict policies in place to restrict fraud.
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They only mail mail in ballots to ACTIVE VOTERS.
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They don’t count ballots that are post marked past Election Day.
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They have a much better chain of custody system.
Lastly, and most importantly, UTAH is 80% Republican. The environment for fraud doesn’t really exist because one side literally dominates the political landscape. If it were more evenly represented, they would quickly see evidence of fraud appear.
Because the bottom line is, the more ways you give people to vote, the more ways they’ll find to cheat. It’s simply human nature. And mail
In is the easiest to manipulate.
90% voted by mail in 2020.
So, how is this more secure? Literally anyone can request a mail in ballot.
Nobody does. They allowed the counting to be extended in North Carolina and PA, but they were postmarked prior or on election day
Than whom? In what way? You’re against mail in voting in general, so Utah is your exception that you’re okay with because they have a better chain of custody system than…whom? Who are you comparing it to?
AAAAAnd there we have it. That’s the REAL reason you are okay with Utah but against it throughout the rest of the country, despite the entire Trump administration voting by mail.
That’s based upon several assumptions.
Then why are the only cases of fraud we see almost always Republicans? You have your fairy tale fraud that you and Storm bring up, but that is made up. How do we know? Election audits prove it as do the recounts and nobody ever is prosecuted and the bullshit cases are void. But, we see GOPers arrested all the time for voter fraud.
In fact, how many confirmed, credible cases of voter fraud have we had in…let’s say 20 years. Compare that to how many have voted.
The amazing irony of this is the people who want to stop mail in voting are also the ones who wanted to literally THROW OUT the votes of the people and install Donald Trump.
Can’t make this shit up.
Mail-in ballots were the instrument used to steal the election away from Trump. There should be almost no mail-in ballots, and election day should be ONE day as it is in most countries capable of having a fair election. I believe national election day should be a holiday. People who care about the governing of our country WILL find a find a way to the polls. Elections should not be concerned about the number of voters but the quality of voters. Voters should appear in person, and their ballots should be stamped with their finger prints. Any illegal casting a vote should be permanently deported.
GSC explains things both logically and well. Warden is completely off the beam. I advise Warden to take look at the egregious failure of Biden and compare it with the stunning success of the Great Trump Administration.
False.
Except that Utah uses them almost exclusively and the entire Trump administration used them. Also, all deployed soldiers use them. So, by your measure, we should nullify the entire Trump administration’s votes, all soldiers not within the country and all of Utah, right?
Great idea. Your GOP has blocked it for years
Meaning?
That would include a LOT of Trump supporters from 2020
Historians have already listed Trump in the bottom 3 Presidents in history. His Big Lie is listed along with Hitler and Goebbels in places like Wikipedia to forever link Trump with Nazis and their grand lies.
Categorically, throughout the present and our future, Trump will ALWAYS be remembered as a failure and a person who put himself over the country…a person who literally tried to dismantle the United States and people like Bikki and GSC supported him in all his efforts, cementing them as horrible Americans on par with other traitors throughout history
Warden is carving em up like Turkey.
Really? Have they? I year after his administration? That just proves their partisan assholes.
Jesus Christ tell me about it.
Warden is here to argue. Nothing more, nothing less. He’s admitted that this is his outlet.
I don’t see anyone carving folks up in these threads.
When your twice impeached and attempt a coup…it makes it pretty easy.
That is true. Are you here to agree? I didn’t notice that in your posts whining about how bad Biden’s speech was. In the time here, however, I have benefit from another aspect - whenever things seem too normal, when people seem logical and things are calm…I go on here to remind me of the willful ignorance, lack of integrity and overall welcoming of the grand grift that you GOPers wallow in. Some folks on here are great reminders