GOP Cancel Culture

I would need to see the entire list of 850 books he’s proposing to form a valid opinion.

Some they listed I think are silly to ban. Others I fee have no place in K thru 12 public school districts.

I’m a staunch proponent of first amendment rights and even diverse educations…. But some of these books that were listed just seem over the top and have different agendas such as these:

But race is not the only thing on the committee chair’s list. Other listed books Krause wants school districts to account for are about teen pregnancy, abortion and homosexuality, including “LGBT Families” by Leanne K. Currie-McGhee, “The Letter Q: Queer Writers’ Notes to their Younger Selves” edited by Sarah Moon, and Michael J. Basso’s “The Underground Guide to Teenage Sexuality: An Essential Handbook for Today’s Teens and Parents.”

I don’t understand what jurisdiction the school has over these ideas? Why should they be taught?

Keep this kind of stuff in the home. It’s inappropriate.

Imagine wanting these books in schools to begin with.

Progressive liberalism = A TRUE CULT…(Exhibit 75367530)

HAHA!!! Sure you are…it’s so obvious in your responses. :joy:

You’re a capitalist who wants socialism on the industries you choose, and a Constitutionalist who seemingly endorses the idea of a single state religion. All this shows me is how much of a Trumpkin you are and little else.

I am not sure we should take educational reading ideas from a Floridian calling himself Skeeter

Not from Florida.

And why should we be taking them from you?

I’m not the one who made a statement about the books. You did.
I made a statement about the GOP cancel culture.

Would you prefer a flowchart to assist in your understanding?

I just read off a handful of 305’s book list

I think some/most of those books should be banned from public schools…I mean the BLM stuff is obvious. We know that organization is a fraud and dangerous, for instance…And obviously you gotta be a fucking idiot to support CRT. No reason for those books in schools.

In high schools I guess I would not object to the homosexuality books, elementary schools 1000% object.

So I would take it on a book by book basis. I can understand why Texas is trying to deal with this, but would not support it One Fell Swoop.

Cancel Culture

None of it is about CRT. CRT isn’t being taught in schools. It’s a legal theory. You don’t know the meanings of the words you’re using. But, CRT discusses institutional racism and your comment was on believing it - Then explain red line laws, crack vs cocaine sentencing, black vs white in disability pensions, etc.

Cancel Culture

No…Just common sense.

Yes I do…And I’m rejecting it. And you are making up fairy tales and boogiemen to try to save the world. That’s what your little bleeding heart does.

I don’t know much about disability pensions because I haven’t researched it enough, but

Redlining- isn’t and has never been racially motivated. It’s financially motivated. Redlining happened in Appalachia as well and other poor white neighborhoods.

At the end of the day banks/investors don’t care about the color of the people they indebt, just that they can pay back.

It can be argued, indeed, that redline laws screwed us all. Now banks purposefully underwrite bad loans to avoid regulators from punishing them for not making diversity quotas.

Crack and Cocaine are not identical. I know people will tell you they are- they are not.

Crack is ingested differently. It is purer. It acts faster and has deeper, longer, more intense effects. It is more addictive. And a larger proportion of crack crimes are tied to concurrent violent crimes.

And it’s these violent crimes that were the focus of tougher laws. It just so happened that crack was much more popular in black and minority communities, because it is cheaper (another difference).

If we were to see violent crimes suddenly spike in Beverly Hills associated with cocaine, I promise you local legislators would create tougher sentencing guidelines as well.

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I have no problem with changes in crack vs. cocaine laws…I see the down side.

But in addition to what GSC pointed out the differences…Just realize for all these new school progressives that talk about different forms of punishment vs. rehabilitation/reform, etc…That there were a hell of a lot of black mothers, grandmothers, etc…That were yelling for every drug dealer who was destroying the hoods or causing the death of their kids and grand kids in the 80s and 90s to be locked UNDER THE FUCKIN JAIL and as a related issue for there to be MORE POLICING, not less. Like GSC says while there is some violence that goes along with your average bar scene cocaine dealing…There is not as much day to day violence in front of your house that was going on on the sidewalk in front of black neighborhood residences. Obviously the bodies were piling up both based on overdoses and homicides at a higher rate than night club/working man powder use.

I’m all for examining or reforming different forms of criminal justice. But to make it like there wasn’t pros for harsh sentencing during the Crack Era or that mistakes weren’t made on the fly and that it was all some type of plan for systemic racism is just meltdown liberal narrative.

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Exactly. The Monday Morning QBing on this issue is laughable. Great analysis skeet

Discussions about “unequal justice” or whatever affecting poor communities often overlook the fact that the harshest penalties go after the most violent offenses. Gangs get cracked down on hard because they’re violent and territorial.

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You cannot have secondary school libraries filled with “sicko” books. There are too many classics and worthy books that can take the place of trash. Just like textbooks, library entries should be screened by educators. There are other sources which students have access to smutty material other than school libraries. Fill the libraries with great novels, biographies of noted historical figures, great plays, superb reference books. The secondary school should not be a counseling centers of amateur psychotherapist advancing alternative sordid lifestyles.

I always advocated the Great Books as advanced by Robert Maynard Hutchins and Mortimer Adler. I believe that there is essential knowledge of the ages that needs to be promulgated from one generation to another. We need to stop substituting unworthy contemporary literature for Shakespeare, Shaw, Twain, and literary giants. Schools should be engaged in homogenizing students advancing devotion to the American nation and its national values.

Since we have television, we should televise great teachers capable of making learning interesting. Poor students need great teachers. We must restore discipline to schools, removing early persons who are ungovernable. Our present system of secondary education is failing. Small wonder home schooled children run rings around those in government schools. There must be justice in schools; schools must not be allowed to disintegrate into atmospheres found in prisons.

There should be more knowledge competitions. High schools should have Brain Brawl Tournaments. Secondary schools should offer college courses to students of high achievement. In these courses, more controversial issues can be raised and discussed. By that same token, we need to greatly expand vocational education. Students must be grouped by intellect never by ethnicity. Teachers should never be assigned impossible teaching tasks such as I encountered teaching Chemistry. You cannot teach forty students in a lab made for twenty. You cannot teach Algebra to those who have not mastered arithmetic You cannot teach Latin to someone who hasn’t attained a working knowledge of his/her native language. Grades should be assigned for achievement not effort.

Schools should be wholesome venues not freak shows. Schools should never tolerate chaos in the name of “liberal education.” Schools should always be bastions of decency. Otherwise, they cannot command respect.

While you mention trumpkin, you should specifically call out the fact that he prefers authoritarianism over democracy as well.

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You can try to call it whatever you want. By definition, it’s cancel culture. You just don’t have the integrity to own up.

Oh, the irony…literally defending books being boogeymen (not boogie, as we’re not dancing, cutie-pie) in YOUR effort to save the world from harmful things like, differing opinions on how people should live like gay people, and recognizing basic history like discrimination.
Again, it boils down to nothing more than your lack of integrity as a person

Red Line laws are by definition discriminatory practices. It’s in the beginning of the definition. This ALWAYS boils down to your lack of integrity. Always, each one of you. Ya just don’t have any.

https://digitalchicagohistory.org/exhibits/show/restricted-chicago/other/redlining

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/28/redlining-was-banned-50-years-ago-its-still-
hurting-minorities-today/

That’s like saying slavery was never racially motivated, which of course, I expect you to try and argue as well.

“There are no pharmacological differences between powder cocaine and crack cocaine. This means that, chemically, they are nearly identical and hence, produce similar results.
Despite the fact that the chemical structure of powder cocaine and crack cocaine is nearly identical, the punishment for crack possession or sales is far greater than that of cocaine. Until 2010, this sentencing disparity was 100 to 1, which means that while just 5 grams of crack would carry a 5-year mandatory minimum, it would take 500 grams of cocaine to trigger the same 5-year sentence. While the law was changed in 2010, there continues to be a disparity of 18 to 1”

"Cocaine and crack look different to the naked eye but these drugs have no pharmacological differences, according to Drug Policy Alliance. You may wonder how these drugs differ and if one is more dangerous to use than the other. In short, the answer is no. "

https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/archive/special/9712/ch01p1.htm

To put it bluntly, you’re again, entirely and totally full of shit.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing

The irony is you’re arguing crack was dirty, more violent, and just HAPPENED to be used by black people. It had nothing to do with race that the sentencing was over 100 to 1 in crack vs cocaine. Of course not. Crack was dangerous and cocaine : " Like GSC says while there is some violence that goes along with your average bar scene cocaine dealing…There is not as much day to day violence in front of your house that was going on on the sidewalk in front of black neighborhood residences"

Let’s take a look at that “bar scene cocaine dealing”, shall we?

carface

You do realize Scarface wasn’t just a fairy tale and it was pre-crack, right? You’re MIAMI fans, for fuck’s sake. Are you kidding me? Your city was prime central for the cocaine wars of the late 70s and early 80s…BEFORE crack cocaine, which the CIA, Blandon and Ricky Ross grew out of Reagan’s contra cocaine smuggling operation that flooded the streets with cheap cocaine for the first time.