I’ll add to this discussion:
How the hell can you know a margin of risk is small when it’s an unknown?
There could be multiple health risks.
We’re talking about what… a 1%-2% shift in mortality vs “take a plunge and figure it out later.”
You can’t be serious.
There’s a reason most vaccines take 10-15 years to be approved.
Your statement is just silly.
Not sure if this is 100% legal but it sure is better than a vaccine mandate.
I wasn’t 100% correct. Novavax is a subunit protein vaccine. Moths and tree bark: How the Novavax vaccine works
Meh…Slightly. And with Rt plummeting in Florida and Texas, expect deaths to peak 2nd week September at the latest.
Since some of you refuse to read.
My friends son was heathy. He was not over weight. He just did not believe in the vax.
The guy I put up is in relatively good shape. He does run a kitchen at a busy restaurant.
Gsc, that is your opinion. I see it differently.
Bias is putting it mildly…There’s so much wrong with this I don’t know where to start. It’s grossly skewed
At least they explain some of that in the 2nd bar graph…Basically a larger amount of both cases and deaths were happening towards the beginning of this timeline when a larger percentage of the people were unvaccinated…So of course they are going to make up a larger percentage. But they of course word it in a way to excuse the fully vaccinated…“As the fully vaccinated rate increases, it is expected that the percent of post-vaccination cases will increase”…DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER. But it works both ways and another way of wording this would have been but this study is greatly skewed because we chose a time period that started with very, very few people being vaccinated over the first couple months which of course leads to the huge chunk of cases. I.e. why ruin our headline with a disclaimer in favor of the side we are trying to attack? June to August is much different and realistic (and still on the way up) but, of course would have produced a much less dramatic outcome and headline.
Also please note that they are now allowed to say “vaccinated people can contract and show no symptoms”…Anyone catch this irony? OK so now it’s ok to be unsymptomatic right lol…Both for accounting and daily life/safety reasons. Not what I was told the last year.
And finally remember a lot of people are going to the hospital simply because they aren’t vaccinated…They are not deathly or even significantly ill. Majority? No I doubt it…But I think it does contribute to the gap…Even if it’s by 5-15%. That’s an overall hypothesis, not another comment towards this article. Basically I think a few/some of them are saying, I don’t want the vaccine, but I’m cool with going to a doctor/hospital.
So again while I do think it’s very clear that the vax can help you fight it and keep you out of hospital, and the correct move for an elderly, obese, diabetic person…(see the UK delta numbers above in the Kerpen link, which is the 2nd time I posted this link) The numbers in this article are not being adjusted for context.‘’
A guy I know from a Sofla county gives me daily numbers from his group of two hospitals…The numbers over the past 17-18 days have ranged from 73-88% of covid patients being unvaccinated. No info on the distribution of deaths. And admittedly the difference between 80 and the 92ish % in this Cali article may be because Cali article is also counting partially vaccinated in the numbers and I have no idea if my Sofla friend is.
But you attack people and become distraught…GSC doesn’t. I used to not do it…Until I became sick of your disgusting, overly emotion tantrums…So now you can go fuck yourself and consider you and everyone out here like you a fucking enemy
If any of you meet up with or have a plans to have a coffee with nole80 please cancel, wear 19 masks, sit on the other side of the room, or just plain run and hide! Apparently the most significant comorbidity of them all is simply knowing this man! Every third person he comes across dies of covid.
Indiana you did not offend me. So let me get this straight GSC a tadpole is more important than a living breathing person because they have choices. Like I said once the person is born you could give a rats ass if the person lives or dies. That’s messed up
Back at ya brother.
I am OK with myself and don’t need your message board validation to tell me what type of person I am. You know nothing about me.
Nothing.
Don’t worry about it Indy…We’re running out of options with these zealots…Only thing we can do is hope we meet up with them and start bouncing their head off the ground for them. Fugg em
I added the Bias with “!” because I knew it had lots but it was the only report I saw that attempted to provide vax vs non-vax outside of the CDC’s report from this week, NUTTS that others haven’t.
Agree with the above two paragraphs.
The link I provided does just that.
This one?
No idea…It’s about 7-8 posts up.
A tadpole doesn’t develop into a human being. A tadpole develops into a frog.
So no- a tadpole isn’t more important than even the least of human beings.
So what’s your point?
Interesting that you didn’t ask yourself the same question!!!
There is an element of the unknown, to be sure, but we can only work off what we do know.
Except “real” vaccines like the measles, right?
Are you showing us mostly reduced hospitalization and death ratios with the vaccine against Delta? Thanks for pointing that out.
It is interesting that the numbers go up slightly after the 2nd dose. this could be due to early vaxxers starting to lose their protection, displaying how the vaccine’s protections wane after time. (I wish they tracked the time after the last dose too.)
Gsc, there are women who go to fertility clinics…they get end up with sometimes 5-6 babies inside of them…doctors will go in and pop the ends so she does not end up with more kids then she can handle…I guess that is murder…but that person who is actually alive on the hell with them.
WTF? Let me follow here because you have a very special way with words.
A woman comes into the doctor. She has multiple embryos?
And the doctor believes “she can’t handle them.”
Does “can’t handle them” mean he believes in his professional opinion she or some of the babies will die?
Because if that’s what he means, then you can argue it is MORAL to abort.
I’m not saying I would make that argument. I would roll the dice and take my chances if it was my decision. But at least there you have a very good reason to take action and end a life.