Don’t expect this to get much news but I’ll throw it out there.
No vaccine mandates, no lockdowns, and monoclonal antibodies available.
Florida is doing better now than states that have much higher vaccination rates. And hospitalizations are way down.
I expect crickets, but here it is.
What an accomplishment. It’s almost, considering Florida was averaging 25,000 cases a day (116 for every 100,000 residents) in August making it one of the worst not only in the entire country, but the entire world…like the virus has a known surge then decline in two month intervals. Maybe it’s had a consistent cycle since it began.
(Has Delta Peaked? - The New York Times)
It’s almost like you were claiming the numbers were fake and/or not important when Florida was higher than most of the world but now want a pat on the back since it’s burned through its cycle. It’s kind of like how you want to congratulate Trump for rushing the vaccines but then want to fight vaccines because they were rushed.
I never claimed the numbers were fake. You might be confusing me with someone else.
My point is to say that the virus is cyclical and the idiotic comments about Trump red states doing worse were just that, idiotic.
The virus is going to do what a virus does and cycle. The idiotic mask mandates, vaccine mandates and lockdowns have largely been ineffective.
And Warden, I hate to break it to you but your hope that all the Trump folks are dying without the vaccine doesn’t seem to be playing out. Darn.
I do have that hope, for sure. But, over half of Trumpkins are over 55 and nearly 35% are over 65. Demographics are not on your side, that’s why you’re attacking voting rights and openly having talks within your party about dismantling the Constitution for another form of government.
BUT, I’m already moving so ya’ll do what you want with it. I’ll be in Prague by the end of next year. All the people fighting to make this or that right in this country haven’t worked out the full question…are we worthy of saving? I think we’ve shown we’re not. So, I’m not trying to save anyone except myself and my family. Ya’ll burn it down…I’ll watch from a villa
I know people have mentioned this on CNN and MSNBC. The claim is a damning one; no one in a constitutional republic should lose their right to vote. What I haven’t heard (maybe I’m not listening closely enough) is how are voting rights being attacked, weakened, or removed?
What voting rights have exactly been attacked?
Am I wrong in thinking that anyone of at least 18 years of age and who has registered to vote can still vote in this country (I mean unless you are a felon, right?)?
Seems logical. We all owe it to our loved ones above anyone else to protect them and provide for them.
It would be nice if more Americans saw it this way and didn’t see the need to intrude upon others dictating to them how they should carry on their life. Seems like you’re moving in the direction of limited government as key tenet of your political philosophy.
Viable question. Let’s dig into it.
These restrictions have taken many forms, including strict photo ID requirements, limitations on who can provide assistance at polling places, the curbing of early voting days, and the closing of hundreds of polling places across the US. Other measures, like the purging of voters from state voter rolls and drawing election districts in a way that curbs the power of voters of color, have affected how much power communities of color hold in elections.
First with stricter ID voting laws, such as in Georgia, where the “exact match” voter ID law means even if there is a hyphen missing, an extra space, or a type- the applicant has to take extra steps to verify their identity. This affects about 53,000 applications in limbo right now. The vast majority of those applicants are black voters, an AP analysis found, most not aware their applications are being held up.
Then, you have college students…wherein, places like NH, they are trying to enforce blocking them from voting as most have their permanent addresses in their parent’s location while in college, but the states are trying to block them from voting where they live in college. In North Dakota, they require the ID to show basic info, like name, birth date, but most importantly, residential address. This is an issue in ND considering that most of the state’s Native American population and other rural voters don’t have a fixed street address. They use PO boxes instead. These are the outlying issues. 11% of US citizens don’t have an id, more than 21 million Americans. In some places, they must provide things like a birth certificate, whereas we have examples of many older people literally not having them. They never had them. Up to 25% of African Americans don’t have a valid ID, compared to only 8% of whites. Some states have discriminatory methods of excluding some forms while accepting others…like Texas who accepted concealed weapon permits for voting, but won’t accept a student ID from a college. North Carolina excluded public assistance IDs and state employee IDs, which are dis-proportionally held by black voters. Until recently, Wisconsin permitted active duty military ID cards, while excluding Veterans Affairs ID cards. There are examples over and over of what is seemingly specifically targeting minority populations and college students, who tend to be more liberal. Since 2000, there have been 31 credible allegations of voter impersonation prior to 2020. So, during a time in which over a billion people voted, you’ve found 31. Yet, nearly every GOP state is pushing harsher voting laws.
So, to look at it from a 30,000 view….Utah is harshly Republican and white at 90.6%. How does Utah, the bastion of conservatism handle voter ID? You can use utility bills, a paycheck stub, hunting or fishing license, court records, vehicle registration, even copies of non-picture IDs. So….what’s different? Why doesn’t Utah have heavy voter ID laws like the rest of the GOP-land? The GOP is UP IN ARMS about people voting by mail, right, despite Trump and nearly his entire administration voting by mail themselves. How’s that in Utah? Utah is the PRIMARY OPTION for Utah voters. Since 2004, anyone who wants to vote by mail can, no questions asked. They also have automatic voter registration
But, but but……election security? Oh, there is only “election security” issues when it’s NOT a Republican vote, apparently. If that wasn’t the case, then why are no Republicans attacking Utah? Why no strict voter ID laws? Why vote by mail as the primary method? Could it be…90% white?
Then, you have the closure of voting stations. For example, Texas has closed a remarkable amount of polling places since 2012. There used to be 1 voting station for every 4000 people, but now 1 for every 7700. In McLennan county, they closed 44% of their polling places from 2012 to 2020, despite their population growing by 15000 people, but they were mostly black and Hispanic. So, close the stations. Make it harder to vote. In Brazoria County, south of Houston, they closed 60% of their polling places causing it to fall below the legal minimums. Out of the 50 counties that gained the most black and Hispanic populations in Texas, 542 polling stations closed compared to 34 in white dominant areas, despite the fact that the population of the former group rose by 2.5 million people, whereas the latter category declined by only 13,000 people. This occurs throughout the country. Republicans are cutting access to the vote. Mix in the ignorant and direct laws like eliminating Sunday voting, shortening voting hours, making it illegal to even give water to a person standing in line for 12 hours to vote because their polling places have been cut to nothing….it’s a direct attack on voting access.
But again….in the 90% white, Republican Utah….where are the voter ID laws? Where is the cutting of polling places? Where is the attack on voting by mail? Where is the attack on automatic voter registration? It doesn’t exist in a white dominated, Republican state, thus proving they aren’t interested in voting security or anything else. They’re pushing to limit voting by those who vote against them.
Virus is seasonal…Probably the 97000 time I’ve typed that on this message board.
But man the media and some leftists on this board had a lot of fun in August blasting Desasntis, etc…Good times.
But you condemn bikki? So it’s ok for you to be selfish and self interested but no one else? Got it.
No state has lockdowns now. But let’s unpack this. Florida is doing better than all other states?
If you are taking a single snapshot TODAY and ignoring the PAST then yes, Florida may have the lowest number of new daily per capita cases in the nation.
But theyre still the 3rd highest total active cases overall, which is expected being the 3rd most populous state.
And do we care about this precise second or week, or do we care about the total tally?
Because Florida is 7th in the nation in all time per capita cases.
Because Florida is the 9th WORST IN THE NATION for total deaths per capita.
Is this supposed to be some kind of indictment of California’s policies when they’re sitting at 35th?
Why oh why would you ever expect crickets when you put forward such a flawed argument?
Nothing is flawed about my argument. I’m pointing out the idiocy of those that said Trump states were fairing worse. The point is that a virus is cyclical. This shows that those folks were full of shit. I don’t know if you were in that camp or not.
And maybe the use of monoclonal antibodies helps?
Florida HAS faired very poorly, by the numbers. That’s why your argument is flawed.
If we hammer them for what happened before and highlight the spike in cases in the summer, it’s only fair to highlight their current success.
And they are doing it as the most open state in the nation! So many states have faired better overall, perhaps. But not many have been open like Florida during this time with a robust economy. I like that trade off.
You can keep going on about specific moments in time if you like, and that’s fair enough.
I’m judging them by their total record.
25.5 is the average. Above that and that state performed above average. Below that = below average.
When dealing with per capita deaths, you want to be below average, like California at 35. Florida is 7. That’s a top ten you don’t want to be in.
I mean, I’m not sure what that means. California has been open forever. Schools have been full swing. If you’re just worried about mask and testing policies, that’s something, but it’s hardly a win versus the per capita death toll.
Let’s look up total death rates per 100,000. Florida is at 274 and California is at 181. Both rates are pretty small overall. The chart that I saw from 3 days ago had Florida at 9, but the death rates were all pretty close in the top 25.
And Florida has the second highest population of over 65 per capita in the nation, so it makes sense that they naturally have a higher death rate from COVID.
So many factors involved that I’m not going to kill DeSantis for that, but the man has been awesome in keeping the state open through the majority of this pandemic.
I agree and I wouldn’t necessarily kill him either. But there’s a big difference between not killing someone and praising them.
Yep, Bikki cheers murders of people because of their color and promotes blogs used to champion mass murders. Yeah, I condemn Bikki. But, in general…yeah, I don’t care if you burn or succeed. Either way…what time is the Cowboys game on?
Desantis ran circles around America with covid approach…I hate to tell some of you, but covid isn’t the only fucking problem in this country…And when you factor in one’s own responsibility and freedom to stay home…that we can only do so much against it not as big a problem Covid Mitigation.
Number of dead old people from covid is only one measure…And the tiny gap between States #7-low 20s on that list is comical and will straighten itself out in another 2 months when everyones had 2 Julys and 2 Decembers (Florida and Sun Belt bad July/Augusts in a row) to make it accurate. He was somewhere in the mid to high 20s in mid summer, and that of course skewed slightly in favor of him. And as a couple of you touched you have to adjust for the ridiculous amount of elderly in Florida…His death toll will be no worse than median and when you consider…
He kept his schools open (for everything except the end of the '20 school year yes cunt '51) at a higher rate and had as loose as mandates as anyone in the country.
He is a clear model while this wack job liberal maniacs try saving everyone (the good ones…The powerful ones simply exploiting the ones who mean well but our just delusional and sanctimonious).
Ran Circles.
Yes and in midd summer he was jockeying between 20 and 28. Come February we will have a more accurate picture as everyone would have had 2 flu seasons etc…
But we already see that media loves to attack the attack the Red States during their surges but sympathize and justify ridiculous mitigation during MidWest/Northeast surges
But again I honestly could give a shit about covid…CovidDeaths is only one problem in this country. Especially when you factored in that no one gave a shit in last summer when old people kept dying and a more focused approach was needed one that went ALL OUT to protect LTC homes instead of ridiculous measures like testing healthy people. But we failed on that front too
Focused protection was the right answer…And there is plenty of gray area to me on learning curves, etc…Media and left wouldn’t let that happen though. Covid served too many purposes.