All we can hope is that blacks continue to wake up…And not even saying that will sway vote to the side I would like…Just that they realize the way they are being used like pawns, and that by birthright they don’t have to vote for the left…They are free to make their own choice.
Seems like quite a few are, but I’d be lying if I said I don’t want GOP to run a black candidate for president. But then again, I’d love for the libertarian party to actually become a factor, seems like most of my opinions align with theirs.
Ah yes! The moral dilemma questions.You of course save the child if you are forced to choose. That situation doesn’t not diminish the value of the embryos.
When life was first introduced, God breathed the “breath of life” into mankind. Then He told them to be fruitful and multiply. Sexual intercouse is the beginning of that process. Abortions stop that progress of said process.
Well, it actually does…by definition. If it didn’t you’d have saved the embryos as there were more of them. Would you save 2000 live children in the other room or 1 kid standing beside you?
Not just there, it’s all over your Bible. Also, why does the Bible have a literal recipe for abortions in it?
Subjective thinking IMO. Definitions are defined by the author’s point of view. Obi-Wan Kenobi, a fictional character, said it best. “A lot of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.”
You WANT this to be the definition, because you know you can’t stand the thought of anyone killing an innocent baby.
Oh stop with the hypotheticals. I’m not going down that path with you.
Life begins at conception. To intervene and end that life in this cycle is murder. I know you don’t want it to be, but without intervention a baby will be born.
Again, you believe a baby in the womb at 9 months is not a baby and that it isn’t infanticide and murder to drain the embryonic fluid, and with tongs, literally pull pieces of the baby out, one by one. Even when that baby tries to resist being killed in the womb. And you have zero second thoughts on whether or not this is ok.
You seem to have a distorted view of what abortion is. 96% of all abortions are done with a pill. Out of 56 million abortions done each year, 45% are done unsafely, meaning they occur in an area where abortions are illegal, self induced abortions, or by people without proper medical training or facilities. It’s estimated that it accounted for 13% of maternal deaths. Abortions rates are similar in countries that ban abortions and countries that don’t.
I suggest you read up on the data before Roe v Wade. There was lots of it to the point that most agreed with it at the time, even groups like the SBC applauded the decision at the time. It wasn’t until the Moral Majority that it became what it is today. You are a victim of Jerry Fallwell and Frank Schaeffer.
It doesn’t surprise me in the least that you use the “unsafe” murder of babies to justify the “safe” murder of babies. This is another excuse from the left. You don’t justify infanticide by saying that you’ll commit infanticide in a cleaner environment. It’s all infanticide. And it’s all unacceptable.
The day you convince me that killing babies is ok because it allows you to live the way you prefer is the day I tell my children that I don’t love them and they don’t matter. Never gonna happen.
And your view is extremely curious - considering you’ve been in situations involving pregnancy that you didn’t want to have ended. And I’m sorry you had to go through that.
Infanticide, murder…if you have to change the meanings of words in order to justify your perspective, there is a problem with your perspective. But, you’re entitled to it so have at it.
It says I have a respect for words and their definitions. Additionally, I have compassion for people. People are born. Also, I have much more compassion for women going through the decision than the clump of cells in their belly. I’m all for a time period at which only the mother’s or baby’s health is a determining factor, but not for outright banning abortion. Absolutely not. But, if the question is does a woman having an abortion bother me? The answer is absolutely not. No. I’d prefer it doesn’t happen in the final trimester, but we already have a ban on late term abortions in most cases. Trying to ban abortion outright is just another attempt to tie women to their reproduction and control them.
Also, however, I understand I don’t have a child. I’ve never had a kid. If I had a kid, maybe I would think more closely to you. I don’t see it, but I have no kids so who knows. I know I’m not a beacon of virtue or anything. I’ve changed my opinions over time on virtually everything. Hell, I used to be a VP of NT College Republicans, going to Lincoln Day dinners, meeting with Dick Armey over salads, etc.
And 84 - I want to make it very clear - I absolutely have empathy for any woman who becomes pregnant and has to make that choice one way or another - it’s life altering - regardless of what choice they make. And I entirely agree with you that there should be more help/assistance out there - particularly for single mothers/low incomes. 1,000%.
What I simply cannot (and will not) get past is deciding to end an innocent life because yikes may get hard. That option to me is unacceptable. To me, the only time abortion is appropriate is if in the very rare event) going to term will kill the mother.
Please understand that this debate is not about controlling women. It’s about preserving life that should be given a chance to live.
What about in cases of rape and incest? Would you force the mother to carry to term, by penalty of law, her rapists’ baby?
All this being debated, I have no stake in the game. I’ll admit it. If my wife gets pregnant, I’m super excited. We’re trying. Also, I respect all of ya’ll on this as it’s pretty evident its not a partisan issue for you, but you all actually care about the baby, fetus, whatever. It’s admirable for sure. We just disagree.
The absolute worst thing that can happen. I get asked this question a lot too when having this discussion. This a vile situation for all women. It’s almost unbearable even the thought or idea for a woman to have to carry the seed of her rapist. The most unfortunate thing of it all, there are 2 innocent parties involved: the victim of said rape and the child created as a result of said rape.