So, how do Americans feel today, not BEFORE the war?
Ride what dick? You motherfuckers are goofy. My article stands on its own. It’s pretty clear. I can post other polls from this week that show sentiment for direct engagement hasn’t shifted DESPITE DAILY MEDIA HYSTERIA.
Now go give Djrion that reach around he’s desperately waiting for.
That ole cornball shit
You fags and your memes and gifs are hilarious
Plus you steal my words…The ultimate dickride
The way these m’fers interpret polls
“Support supplying weapons”
“Support taking in refugees”
etc, etc
In no way shape or form means they are losing any fucking sleep over it…These people want to believe they are saving the world so bad…Pure comedy
Please do. This poll was from BEFORE the war and shows clearly that 89% of the US is following “somewhat or very closely.” That seems pretty clear to dismantle your claim that “nobody gives a rats ass.” Your only retort was that other things were higher priorities. If nobody gave a rats ass, 89% wouldn’t be following it closely or somewhat closely, it wouldn’t be on the front page of every news org, and you guys wouldn’t be posting about it so often. I mean, there are pages and pages of posts on it on this message board alone.
What? I’m not sure what you’re going on about. No one addressed possible methods to make people “care more.”
Nice deflection though. You completely ignored all the parts of your own article that contradict your point. Classic GSC.
Psst, bikki, you’re not supposed to be calling this a “war.”
Yes, the longer the war lasts, the more bloodshed will be visited on Ukrainians and Russians.
Are you pointing this out to declare you are against all wars forever? That there is no such thing as a good cause for war?
Yes it clearly does. Anyway, the poll was taken before the 2/24 invasion.
Lol, only skeeter’s allowed to ride dicks in the Shelter, doncha know?
Yes, that is what is being ridden.
I believe Warden is replying to skeeter’s immature callouts anytime someone supports a post he disagrees with.
Ironically, a full half of skeeter’s posts are jumping in the middle of an argument to support (aka dickride) a conservative poster.
He deserves to be called out for his 12-year-old shit.
LOOK AT GSC MOVING THE GOAL POSTS AGAIN!!!
We’re not talking about direct engagement!!! Most Americans are against direct engagement, and most (if not all) posters in here would agree with that assessment (whether they are personally for direct engagement or not).
Golnzalo Lira is much alive and wrote today about the war in Ukraine. Here is what he wrote. Lira most definitely is pro-Russian and I would aver anti-American, certainly with regard to this conflict.
A Recap Of The War In Ukraine - by Gonzalo Lira
Gonzalo Lira just delivered a decent recap of the war in Ukraine.
Gonzalo Lira @GonzaloLira1968 - 10:28 UTC · Apr 26, 2022
Quick recap for those who haven’t followed what’s been going on in Ukraine but want to understand: 02/24: The Russians invaded from the south, south-east, east and north, in a lightning campaign. The Russians invaded with 190K troops—against 250K combat troops from Ukraine.
The RF put 30K troops near Kiev—nowhere near enough to capture the city—but enough to pin down some 100K AFU defenders. The RF also launched several axes of attack, with reinforcements on standby (including a famed 40km long tank column), to see where they might be needed.
Crucially—the Russian’s blitz on several axes pre-empted an imminent UKRAINIAN blitzkrieg. The AFU had been about to invade the Donbas. This was the immediate motivation for Russia’s invasion: To beat them to the punch and scuttle Ukraine’s imminent invasion—which they did.
Also, by attacking from the north and south, the Russians disrupted weapons supply chain from NATO. Had the RF only attacked in the east to prevent the AFU invasion of Donbas, there would have been an open corridor for resupply from the West. Threatening Kiev stopped that.
So the main AFU army was left stranded in east Ukraine, with the rest of the Ukr. forces isolated and pinned down—with no easy resupply from the West. The RF then went about hitting AFU command/control and resupply links, further isolating and immobilizing Ukrainian forces.
The Russians soon nominally controlled land the size of the UK in Ukraine—but it was a tenuous control. The south of Ukraine was more fully in Russia’s grip. The AFU around Kherson simply scattered. Mariupol became a clear battleground, as did the Donbas proper.
What the Russians initially wanted was to:
- Short-circuit the imminent Donbas invasion - which they did.
- Scare the Zelensky regime into negotiating a political settlement - which they failed to do.
Kiev had no intention of negotiating a ceasefire because of orders given to them from Washington: “Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian!” Also, the Neo-Nazi goons around Zelensky threatened him if he negotiated and surrendered because they are terrified of the Russians.
So Zelensky launched a massive PR and propaganda campaign, primarily to motivate AFU forces to fight to the death. Myths were created (Ghost of Kiev), false flags were carried out (Bucha, Kramatorsk) and relentless media stories were flogged relentlessly.
The Russians kept negotiating and trying to NOT destroy Ukraine infrastructure. In fact at first they were even trying to minimize AFU casualties. The evidence for this is overwhelming: The RF did not hit civilian infrastructure - water, electric, phone, transportation. They did not hit AFU barracks, command centers, government buildings, etc.
The Russians’ initial priority was for a negotiated settlement. But by late March, they realized this was impossible.
This is why the RF withdrew from Kiev. There was no sense putting men near the city when they were not doing what they were supposed to do - putting political pressure on the Zelensky regime to negotiate. This withdrawal was claimed as a “victory” in the “Battle of Kiev”! lmao
Starting in late March, the Russians pulled back and solidified their control over the area they had captured, ceding to the AFU areas that were either pointless to or potentially too costly to control. The Ukraine propaganda machine called all these pull- backs “victories”.
There was still a glimmer that the war might end in a negotiated settlement but that ended in early April. After the Istanbul talks of 3/30, the Ukraine side gingerly agreed to some compromises but within a week publicly disavowed those concessions.
That’s when the Russians realized the Zelensky regime was agreement-incapable: Their Washington masters, Victoria Nuland and Anthony Blinken in particular, wouldn’t allow a peace. They want this war to sap Russia dry. It is a classic proxy war and Ukraine will pay the price.
Something else the Russians realized: Sanctions. They hurt but Russia bounced back with remarkable speed. They didn’t really hurt that bad. But the theft of Russia’s $300 billion in foreign reserves by the West DID hurt - badly. The Russians realized they were in a total war with the West and since their foreign reserves were lost forever (likely to be pilfered by corrupt Western politicos), the Russians now have nothing left to lose. By stealing their reserves, the West lost all power over Russia.
This has sealed Ukraine’s fate: The Russians now have no incentive to give up what they have conquered. It has cost them too much in terms of men and treasure. And they know that they can’t negotiate a ceasefire. The Zelensky regime will simply break it later.
Which means:
The Russians intend to conquer and permanently annex all the south and east of Ukraine. This is why their strategy on the battlefield has dramatically shifted: Now they are carrying out a slow, methodical grinding down and destruction of the AFU.
The war in the first 30 days was speed, feints, nominally capturing vast swathes of Ukraine territory, with the aim of pressuring the Zelensky regime into a negotiated settlement. But the West’s total financial and political break with Russia means they have nothing to lose. And they have a lot to gain: The Donbas is mineral rich, the really productive farmlands of Ukraine are in the east and south, Kharkov is a major industrial city, the Sea of Azov has untold natural gas reserves.
And besides - the people love them. Why would the Russians now give up this hard-won prize?
And they have won - make no mistake. Ask any military man who is not a system pig, he’ll tell you: There is no way for the AFU to retake their country. They have no armor, no air defense, no fuel, no comms - it’s over.
The great tragedy is that so many THOUSANDS of young men will die, and die NEEDLESSLY!!, in order to postpone the inevitable. These brave boys will have fought so valiantly - and died so young, so cruelly -because of the evil of the Zelensky regime.
That’s the hard truth.
And in the end, this will be the map that will remain—a bitter image of Ukraine’s future. Russia will pour billions into their newly acquired territory. It will prosper and flourish. But the rump-state of Ukraine will be left poor, destroyed, forgotten.
A tragedy.
There is a lot more about this conflict that we plainly do not know. Prolonging it is a terrible policy that will harm far more people than it will ever help. The biggest myth is that the Russian military is being beaten by the Ukrainians. That is just not happening. Ukraine cannot win.
So……just let Putin waltz in, commit more war crimes and erase Ukraine, then Moldova?
Great idea. He’d never go further than that.
Gonzalo Lira is a douchebag failed dating coach who spent his time attacking HR departments and talking about how useless women over 30 were, only to then pivot when his youtube channels were sinking to being a pro-Putin shill. Why don’t you just ask the guy who works at your local 7/11 or the homeless guy on the beach?
Thanks for the article, bikki.
I would be more inclined to believe “pinning down” was the intention if Russia didn’t send their paratroopers to die, if they didn’t have plans for a coup in Kyiv, and if they didn’t lose so many troops.
The fact of the matter is that Russia could have “distracted” UA forces in the north by simply lining up in Belarus, or possibly with a token attack on Chernihiv and takeover of Chernobyl. They didn’t need to actually sacrifice so many assets if the entire front was a feint. Not to mention, ukraine’s army is divided into territorial defense forces, so most of the Kyiv defenders were staying put whether or not there was a northern front.
This is demonstrably false. In fact, Russia was NEVER able to encircle Kyiv, and Russia was NEVER able to disrupt the West’s supply to the capitol.
I do appreciate reading about heading off a Ukrainian push to retake Donbas, as that is possible and can explain Russia’s early deployment of troops to the borders, as well as Russia’s abysmal communication to their troops that they would actually be attacking. Again, these 2 situations are GREAT for background deterrent, but they are HORRIBLE for actually invading, hence Russia’s miscalculation.
I appreciate the admission of this clear failure of the northern front.
BS propaganda as is clear by anyone reading. The US offered Zelensky an airlift and he refused. As we witnessed in Afghanistan, the United States can NOT force a nation to fight for their own freedom. The people either have the will or they don’t.
Totally agree. Negotiated settlement is generally how wars end. And I do agree that Russia did not initially intend to level Ukraine to rubble, or to unnecessarily kill civilians. Rather, they were hoping for a quick and clean “operation” like Crimea where they would not engender so much Ukrainian hate.
Things did not play out the way they intended. This, btw, is another admission of a key intelligence failure.
By his own words, the northern front soldiers were “not doing what they were supposed to do - putting political pressure on the Zelensky regime to negotiate.” Therefore, calling the Russian retreat a victory is appropriate.
First note that he admits “pulling back” was a prerequisite for “solidifying control in the east.” So here’s another admission that the entire northern front hurt the war effort.
What he skipped over was Russia’s abysmal failure to capture significant Donbas territory after a month of full-on war. They still have not captured Kharkiv.
Think about is this way:
If Russia had invaded Donbas and the south on Feb. 24th without instituting a northern front, they would probably be better off than they are today, with demoralized/beaten soldiers being reused in a 2-month-overdue cleanup operation.
Confused by this paradox.
And no shit. It’s almost as if this entire war was about resources, not Nazis.
It’s a bold statement. It may be true. I’ve publicly stated my reservations for how this second phase of the war is much more in Russia’s wheelhouse.
The part about the lack of armor, air defense, and fuel is baffling, however, given unprecedented Western support.
I suppose none of it matters except to watch if Ukraine does indeed manage to take back territory. The great thing with people making bold claims like this is we can see later whether they were right or wrong.
You can lead a horse to water…
GSClown not only makes up definitions like his mom is Webster, but he also infers what he wants to believe from the stuff he reads.
This faggot motherfucker wrote “doncha”
And you curiously write dickrider and fuckboy a lot…
Poor analogy…Fucking idiot
I’m just pointing out your homoerotic fixations… idiot
A whole lot of them
No you are clearly making them up…Not how those particular descriptions are being used
Dick rider ^^…Case in point
No, he’s not. Several people have commented on your homoerotic fixations. Usually, people who act as “homophobic” as you are dress in panties at night standing in front of a mirror with lipstick on
I’m not homophobic at all
I just say the word faggot
Djrion has called people on this message board a faggot and he probably has a rainbow bumper sticker on his car