There are a lot of couples who are not able to have children who would love to adopt. If a woman doesn’t want to be pregnant, then she should not engage in sexual intercourse. Sexual intercourse is a reproductive act. If you don’t want to reproduce, then you should not engage in activity that will cause reproduction to be possible. Rape is the only exception to my commentary, because rape is not voluntary.
I support those things and other programs to help kids and families that need it.
But I’ve still yet to hear a valid excuse for the killing of an innocent life due to economics.
Sounds like it brother!
First off, I do. And I don’t think it’s fair to accuse me otherwise. Second, this whole “women’s bodies” and reproductive rights” talk does nothing but deflect from the real issue.
Generally, women get pregnant in part through choosing consensually to have sex, right? So where’s the whole part about behaviors result in consequences?
Granted - it is utterly unacceptable for some men to impregnate women and bolt. Absolutely reprehensible. But again - what has the baby done to deserve to die?
Or you can see it as we are debating the rights of the unborn child.
Thank you. Every conceived child deserves their fair shot at life.
Eh, I think we should have more. Not enough people have abortions in my opinion. You have yours; I have mine. You support outlawing it. I support making it available at all fast food, 7/11s, and Wal Marts. I think we should have them in food trucks that come to you.
Outlawing it won’t stop them from happening. I’ve said this in previous discussions. People need to understand that pregnancy is 100% avoidable, rape being the only exception. Don’t engage in sex unless you are willing to accept that a life can be conceived as an outcome.
Tell that to Mary 
Until there are no more people with face tattoos or professional DJs, I support more abortion. Period.
How does one go from wandering the world because an abortion de ion was withheld from them to supporting abortions and wanting more of them.
I only see one way- pain.
And I’m sorry that it happened to you. I hope you can find peace with it.
I didn’t wander because of the abortion. I wondered because after 7 years, this bitch aborted the kid out of nowhere with no conversation, then went crazy over it and started cheating and I caught her. Then, my company at the time closed and dog died. Within 3 months I had lost literally everything I had in the world. It was during the Enron/Worldcom recession so rough finding a job, and in particular, I thought I was worth way more than I was. I was young and stupid. Made really good money at my first job out of college (if you like the music in A Beautiful Mind, I help put that in there), and I thought I was special or some shit, dunno. I was overqualified for shitty jobs and under qualified for good jobs. Like a wimp, I was totally depressed, and just withered for a while, draining savings. Long story of the road I traveled, but none of it matters. Self indulgent and depressed and just not mature. All on me.
It sucked. Bad prep on my part. Took a bit to get my shit back together and grow the hell up. Started as a temp in logistics over a weekend and worked my way up to managing the operations and regulatory compliance for a logistics company within 5 years and years later…here we are.
But, most of the bad things that happened in my life were my fault. I wasn’t acting like a grown man with her at the time. She didn’t see a future because I was too immature to build one. Who knows what her motivations were, but I definitely contributed by being immature at around 24-25.
Thanks dude. I wouldn’t have been strong enough in life to finish it without having to go through all the pain I did, most of it self imposed. Things happen. I grew, grew up. As a note, I’m still here due to just a couple of folks…one of which being DallasCanes. Now you understand why I’ll do anything he ever needs.
Warden my friend, it sounds to me that the abortions have affected you in a very negative way. I cannot tell you the number of times I’ve seen stories about a would be father crying his eyes out at the clinic because he wants the child to be born and there was nothing he was able to do about it.
That’s pretty crappy. I have no answer for that, bud. I do sincerely hold that my opinion on it doesn’t matter. I’m not doing anything about literally ANY of my political opinions, so nothing I say matters, really. I vote, that’s it. Outside of that, I take care of my family and business and watch sports. I’m not an expert on anything outside of logistics and pretty good at baseball stats.
I have a question though for everyone. How did we go from Biden calling someone a SOB to abortions?
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Fuck, I don’t know.
But I must say - and perhaps I’m wrong (too lazy to go back and check) - this debate is what this whole board should be about. Multiple posts and I don’t see any personal attacks/name calling.
And before you call me out for being self righteous - I’m not - I’m a card carrying member.
Obviously the abortion conversation is one of those deals that people generally hold strong opinions of, one way or the other. I understand 84’s arguments. At the end of the day - have the baby - or abort it - it’s life changing and I won’t pretend it isn’t.
I simply contend that all life deserves a shot - especially one that didn’t choose anything……
My mother had me at 18…She went to the clinic twice.
I know I know…lol
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Wait, what do you mean?
She changed her mind
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Good.
Have a family friend who got pregnant at 18. She was scared to death of what her parents would say….so she had an abortion. She doesn’t talk about it much now (she’s in her 40’s), but says she has thought about it every day since and wishes she would have kept it.
Exactly. This is what proper discourse looks like.