This is like debating me over how I wash my own balls. I do this for a living and have been for almost 25 years. I’ve literally owned an international logistics company for almost a decade. GSC is a NJ Salesman of who the fuck knows what, but it’s not international logistics. That’s for sure. I have to deal with tariffs on a daily basis and explain to customers on a daily basis.
I’m not sure why but you guys tend to apply some kind of “straight line” logic to this process. Its weird.
Tariffs are meant to change buying behavior. The idea is to make Domestic products more attractive financially so that our manufacturers and retailers can compete with foreigners who have lower labor and material costs.
So you can assume that a certain percentage of people who now have an option to buy an American alternative, are doing so.
So right there your straight line method is bunk.
Additionally, as we discussed above, foreign exporters are picking up part of the cost. They are doing this in order to remain competitive as well.
- A 3rd impact of tariffs will be that countries will strike trade deals seeking equilibrium. We aren’t there yet, but when we do get there, this will be another area of growth for us because now the playing fields have been leveled.
On top of all that- we’re running surpluses for the first time in a long time.
And you ppl are angry and bitter. Lol
You mean basic logic, of which you possess none.
This assumed domestic substitutes exist. Just because tariffs are in place doesn’t mean viable domestic alternatives are available, like in industries where US lacks production capacity (e.g. certain rare minerals, semiconductors or specific electronics), tariffs can just lead to higher prices without behavior changes.
Also, that omits retaliatory effects. When other countries respond with their own tariffs, harming US exporters particularly in agriculture and manufacturing, the net result may hurt he same domestic sectors tariffs were meant to help, like how we had to bail out the farmers in his last term.
Also, your claim assumes tariffs benefit all domestic players. They can hurt domestic retailers, distributors, and consumers who rely on imports. They increase the costs for downstream businesses, which can lead to job loss or inflation.
Further, it proves you don’t believe in capitalism in general, with your blanket tariffs. Protection from competition can allow domestic industries to become less efficient or innovative, a sign economists warn of “rent-seeking behavior” where industries push for protection instead of innovation.
Lastly, many “foreign” goods have US made components. Tariffs disrupt multinational production, hurting us suppliers.
Nothing about that statement makes any sense. Again, you’re like Cliff Claven but without a shred of morality.
For what, exactly?
So we can burn it?
Let’s see. $27 billion in monthly surplus due to self imposed taxes on American businesses…what exactly do we get out of any of this? Basic service after basic service are being cut from the NOAA to school lunches. Who’s getting anything? Trump’s cronies. Not a single thing the Trump administration is doing is benefiting the American people in any way. Just like Trump stealing the FIFA trophy, he’s doing nothing but stealing from all of us and protecting his pedophile homies. You’re begging to suck his cock the entire way.
This is the part that GSC is not processing. But to answer your question, they have to fund the tax cuts to the ultra wealthy somehow.
You know what happens when you assume right? 2 assumptions have to be made, and you have pointed out both. What does the evidence show? That remains to be seen.
Well, now GSC’s backing away from his idiotic statement about importers not paying for tariffs, and now he’s defaulting to “tariffs are complicated.” I no longer have a problem with this position.
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I never said this. lol
Maybe not lol but you stopped saying it. You did a whole lot of dodging then.
I never said AND I stopped saying it. That’d an interesting statement
Because you know…Tik tok told him so
This dude is so lost.
He doesn’t want to admit that a certain percentage of consumers, where they can…. And where it makes sense to do so…. Will buy either domestic products and avoid the tariff, not buy the item at all because it isn’t a need, or find a different product that has a lesser tariff.
As if those options don’t exist to the consumer.
These guys are disingenuous. Most of their ideas come from media. They don’t do a lot of deep thinking.
Way to go on about a point I didn’t even address that in that post.
Did you make it out of kindergarten? What part of importers raise prices because their costs goes up is untrue? You make it sound so simple that people will just go find the cheaper option.
There’s layers to this:
- A cheaper option has to be available in order for the cheaper option to be bought. Just because you think someone can go find it cheaper does not mean that they always can. Newsflash: Not everything that is sold here is made here. For the things that are made here, see point# 2.
- Retailers love price matching especially when the prices are going up. There is no incentive for someone who is having less costs to keep their prices lower when they sees their competitors selling the same products at a higher price. Your assumption is that the cheaper option will remain cheaper on merit alone. It often does not.
- In addition: Even the stuff that is made here may require elements and parts that are not readily available here and thus must be imported. OH! Now we face the tariffs yet again.
Your beloved president sold his base on the principle that the other countries/exporters were going to be the ones bearing the FULL COSTS of the tariffs. Those in his base that are uneducated, and I’m starting to call your education into question, bought it hook, line and sinker. People that took social studies in grade school and economics in high school and college would know that was a lie. That’s why Trump was so appreciative to Bezos for making the call stopping Amazon from being transparent by showing its customers the effects that tariffs were having on its price points.
There is nothing disingenuous about stating a principled fact. Costs overall are going up, and these tariffs are a major reason why. You are so focused on this one perceived positive, that the whole picture is missed. I believe it’s you that does shallow thinking and confuses it with deep thought.
Perhaps you’re having trouble with the English language? Let me try again:
1 - FIRST PART) Maybe you never said you backed away from the idiotic statement (which to be fair I never claimed you did say that)
2 - SECOND PART) But you stopped repeating the idiotic statement.
So again, I support your new post about how “tariffs are complicated.” I also support that your new post doesn’t repeat an idiotic statement.
Yes, he does, but we are talking about someone who loves to use semantics when it suits him.
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Mexico will pay for the wall.
Trump says things these people want to hear. What he does is does things he can control. Like deporting people…thats a distraction from this other crap.
Now he knows Trump’s mind and motivations.
Yes, and we’ve all adjusted. You apparently are slow
Like deporting people
What’s wrong with deporting people?
You disagree? The guy knows what people like you want to hear. It is what makes him a great politician. He is the ultimate conman.
He demonstrates every day. This is the man that’s quoted for saying he’d run as Republican because they are the stupidest voters.
Wouldn’t it be funny if you just showed how stupid you are for spreading a verifiable lie?