Well this is quite interesting

someone who believes that economic and foreign policy should be planned in an international way, rather than according to what is best for one particular country

Trump has stated he is BOTH a Nationalist and a Globalist. He wants what is best for the USA but knowns we can not remain a global power if we stop all international trade. Thus, he was very selective in his Globalism: UK, South Korea, Mexico, Japan… which returned our policy back to the 1940s globalism policies of working with other democracies vs communists.

I’m 100% for this approach of globalism.

Globalism and Nationalism are mutually exclusive positions.

You either advocate for State autonomy or you advocate for a global centralized power structure.

You can’t do both at the same time.

Supporting global markets or global organizations doesn’t make one a globalist.

It sounds like you are defining a Globalist purely on supporting NGOs which is not my definition of it.

Trump signed many new trade agreements which would be Globalism. Whether he supports the NGOs policies or has his own view of international policies doesn’t change the globalist approach.

Nationalism is not possible with the US Consumerism we live with. We do not have the raw materials to be 100% independent. Thus, they are NOT mutually exclusive positions. You can be a Nationalist that advocates for the USA first knowing very well that you have to have trade agreements and support your international partners which would support globalism.

Go back 100 years and the USA could be 100% nationalists.

No- you’re a really smart guy but you’re not following for some reason.

If Trump agreed to something he is executing State autonomy/sovereignty UNLESS the agreement revoked his power or the USA’s power.

A state agreeing to a global agreement isn’t necessarily globalism.

The UN or the League of Nations, or the WHO, or the “fill in the blank” global authority issuing a directive that USA would have to comply with, is globalism.

It’s a plan to centrally direct all nations to comply with a law. It strips their sovereignty.

Global trade, deals, treaties, aren’t necessarily globalists if nations freely enter and can freely exit OR freely not comply.

That is your definition of globalism and not the original one.

The NGOs have no power to enforce their own mandates which means that globalism is only as strong as the countries that are willing to adhere to the mandates: not many. Those NGOs outside of the IMF have no economic power which is truly how most decisions are made. Even NATO has limited power as a shell organization trying to bind those countries to act together without having to act together.

Thus, there is no real globalism using your definition. We can break with UN, WHO, NATO, IMF… with limited recourse on their part. What are those NGOs going to do about it? In this case, Trump didn’t leave the UN, NATO, IMF, WHO… I’m not even sure he cut funding for any of them outside of the WHO post Covid. Wouldn’t an anti-globalism President defund all of them?

How about we circle back to the topic at hand?

Global Elites (not NGOs) are running/controlling China? true/false - my vote is FALSE
IF Global Elites leave China it will fail? true/false - my vote is FALSE
Global Elites moving their money/influence from country to country is globalism because they believe it is in their best interest to not be attached to one country? true/false - my vote is TRUE
Trump, while loving the USA, supports other countries because he has business interests outside of the USA thus making him a Nationalist and Globalist? true/false - my vote is TRUE
He wants what is best for the USA but at the same time has real interests in other countries success those can’t help but support globalism when it could help the Trump organization.

#VERYTINYBUTTERKNIFE

You still haven’t addressed why you flipped from China being a major concern to China is under control of the Elite. Just another wild guess on your part?

THE GLOBALIST CONTROLLED THEIR ECONOMY AND THE MILITARY…

IS IT CLEARER TO YOU NOW?

THEY USED THEM TO MAKE TRILLIONS AND SET UP THE DEFEAT OF THE UNITED STATES INTO COMMUNISM…

A communist country that has killed a billionaire in the last year isn’t controlled by elites.

Come back to earth!

We usually complain that Storm doesn’t put enough of his own thoughts together to actually say what he’s talking about…

And then when he does…

I think storm makes some very fair points and questions here…Not so much in defense in china. But I believe much of this push for globalism is a push for communism and the true evil here.

Let’s get REAL.

Australia, New Zealand, France, Canada, US will all have elections in the coming years and IF the population doesn’t like what their leaders did during Covid, they will get voted out. Trump was voted out in part because of his Covid policies. Communism is a one party system with no input from citizens.

Australia truckers are striking over covid policies. That shit wouldn’t fly in China. Truck Drivers Vow to Shut Down All Major Highways in Massive Anti-COVID Lockdown Protest

I’m thankful I live in the USA but there is a MASSIVE difference between bad policies during Covid in a democracy and communism!

Storm jumped from China is the biggest threat to Elite control China which makes it the biggest threat. You have to be fucking kidding me to think that a Chinese government is controlled by a bunch of Elites from Europe and the USA. This shows how little Storm knows about capital markets, international trade, let alone CHINA.

Yes, yes, yes. I don’t even try to counter the old “Red Scare” story line. It’s such an old and outdated political talking point that the people who believe it are forever stuck in their ways.

Storm flip-flopping is nothing new. Was the Pope arrested? Was he killed? Or are some cardinals getting in trouble?

Was Trump winning in a landslide? Did he mean to lose while having everything surveilled from the start? If so, how come he still doesn’t have evidence? Will he take back the presidency? Is he the secret president? Storm’s reneged on one bet already and keeps trying to spin the wording of the 2nd one.

I think you guys are seriously seriously underestimating the push for communism in this country right now. Academia, a fair amount of women, etc…

When you have BLM (which is all bout communism and pretty open about it) is being celebrated/defended in every aspect of American life… at the same time any covid suggestion that doesn’t begin and end with mandates/lockdowns/stimulus is being brutally attacked…I think you need to realize what is going on. The moderate left is clearly dwindling or at least deferring to radicals quite a bit.

THIS CANADA?

https://twitter.com/theeconomist/status/1429818013465853953?s=10

THE ONE THAT HAD AN ELECTION FOR 2023 AND FORCED IT NOW?

DID YOU WATCH POLICE IN AUSTRALIA TRACK DOWN A GUY FOR NOT WEARING A MASK?

https://twitter.com/9_breaking_news/status/1428873363964022785?s=10

THIS AUSTRALIA:

https://twitter.com/michaelpsenger/status/1429499725384884224?s=10

THE ONE THAT ASK DO YOU REALLY NEED TO LEAVE THE HOUSE?

https://twitter.com/jamesmelville/status/1428612856820477952?s=10

I THINK YOU STUGOTZS BETTER GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES…

They all are.

As I’ve said from day 1:

White mans last stand. What a terrible display of leadership and temperment. I feel so bad for us white folk.

BY YOUR TWISTED GODS DEFINITION I’M BROWN YOU STUPIDER MFER…

He’d be hard pressed to cite that several times as well. And I’m not talking about trumptroll623454321 on Twitter

Again- I’m not white.