Tim Walz

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If she’s such a curve ball then why are the media hiding her? She should be front and center, right?

Kamala is experiencing a bump. She’s different and newer than Sleepy Joe. 80 days is a long time to carry a bump forward. I anticipate that so long as Trump has no unforced error (not an easy task for him), he’ll begin to lead more and more.

The democrats had a chance to go with someone detached from the current administration…. I’m sure they wanted to but Kamala probably fought them tooth and nail and threatened to run anyway.

They are now stuck with the record she and Joe created. The only bright spot for Kamala is that she is so detached from it all that she can argue she wasn’t involved in much of it lol.

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Gsc, this election is not about policy. It is about wanting four more years of chaos or four years or someone who is normal. Biden was old - trump is old…people want new. Trump is in trouble unless Kamala messes up.

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I would argue that if you subtracted the media attack- the Trump presidency was the calmest in history…. Until they released a pandemic to create the conditions to win the next election.

No wars
Economic prosperity
Controlled border
Crime down

What more do you want?

For me- I don’t even care about this election. I’m a 2 issue voter right now and neither of the candidates will give me 1 of them.

  1. Control immigration.
  2. Ban LGBTQ initiatives in all public places.

No one, not even Trump, has the balls to touch #2

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Crime down- lol
Immigration was going down before trump ever got into office.

This is why trump won. He says stuff and people believe it. Did the wall get built and has Mexico paid for it. Immigration is the hot topic but those people who want the border closed also want cheap labor.

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What about the members of his own national guard unit that deny it?

Whose words do you take now? And why?

So Trump was good until he dropped the ball. Got it.

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They exist. But which should we do…. Throw out the positive claim or the negative one?

Seems to me that those who claim he did it are in the right to say it. I’ll admit I haven’t done a long analysis into what their specific claims are but why discount them? Because others disagree?

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It’s tough when your own shadow government releases their plan to dethrone you. Hard to control those sorts of things.

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I live in a military town, and my former business partner was the late Lt. Gen. Charles Pittman. Chuck as he was known locally was an orphan who rose in the ranks from being an enlisted man to becoming a true warrior, and one of the chief honchos of Marine Corp Aviation. When he retired, Chuck began work for Elbit Industries, an Israeli armament corporation. Many times Chuck would appear with Israeli guys who would be known in the spy world as spooks. Needless to say, I was privileged to some of the most amazing conversations imaginable pertaining to Israel and the Middle East.

Pensacola has the busiest air space in the country, most of it Armed Forces aviation. There are five bases in around Pensacola, and Santa Rosa, Oklaloosa and Walton counties. We have a lot retired brass here, so it’s not hard to get the low down on what militrary people think about Waltz.

Presently, he is thought of as being a coward who shirked is duty while others went to war. The stolen valor episode is going to preclude substantial numbers of veterans from supporting the Democrat presidential ticket.

My stepson is a retired Marine colonol and formerly taught miltary science at MIT, Harvard, and Tufts Universities. He was also Executive Officer to General Barry McCaffrey in Panama. A great writer, he was in many ways responsible for advancing the careers of several generals. Add my stepson to the list of Waltz detractors.

I agree with Elite80 on Trump’s choice of J.D. Vance. In fact, I wrote to Trump urging him to dump Vance, bury differences, and name Nicki Haley is Veep. I have my disagreement with Haley, but she would strengthen the ticket and I think persuade many Democrats to support Trump.

I also think Kamala erred in not persuading Gov. Shapiro to be her choice as VEEP. Shapiro is one Democrat whom I like immensely. Again, I find myself agreeing with Elite80.

Lastly, while I disagre with Warden on a host of things, I think he’s a great guy, and one of the best posters we have on this site. When my computer broke down, he was first to offer help. The same goes for Elite80 whom I have tried earnestly to persuade him that Trump is best for Israel. Lastly, I want to build up participation in our site, so I plan to issue some invitations to others to join inasmuch as I see our football program on the rise. Let’s hope we don’t blow it against the Gators; I cannot seem to shake my disappointment over the egregious Ga Tech loss last year.

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Bikki, ego is a tough thing to overcome. If I was consulting with trump - I would have told him to take Haley or Tulsi. I feel both are people who would have added something to the ticket. KD is awful. As for Kamala - Shapiro is more qualified. I want to give her credit and say that Josh decided that he wants to be the number one and not the number 2. Kamala asked Shapiro and her VP if they wanted the top spot. Walz said that he is fine with VP. Shapiro had the top prize in mind.

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Having problem transferring parody of Kamala-Waltz telephone conversation. It appeared on X under the named Mr. Reagan. Well worth watching.

https://x.com/MrReaganUSA/status/1821904970826051778

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But you could say the opposite, that we should believe the ones who say he served his country well, and that they are in the right to say it. Why should we discount THEM? Because others disagree?

What I will say is there are many more fellow soldiers who support him than those 2 or whatever that say otherwise.

Look, man, just admit it. You argue based on emotion, not on logic. You know there are opposing views among his old unit. Outright choosing to believe one over the other is nonsensical. Maybe certain people in his unit felt betrayed when he retired. Maybe other people thought retiring after 24 years of service and having a shot at a Congressional spot was a good enough reason. It’s okay for people to have different opinions.

So what are the FACTS? You know, the ones you admit you haven’t looked into?

In February he filed for Congress. In March there were rumors that some from his unit might be deployed.

As far as I’m concerned, the above is enough. Dude had served 24 years and was already thinking about the next chapter in his life, BEFORE any talk of deploying happened. But let’s continue.

In May he retired. In July his unit was notified of their impending mobilization. That didn’t happened until October or something, not sure.

As you can see, there’s absolutely NOTHING WRONG with what Walz did. In fact, if you think there IS something wrong, please articulate what it is specifically that he did that was so bad. Really. What was it?

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Dude, I’m just playing the odds here…but, I’d bet SIGNIFICANTLY that one or both of your children turn out gay. That’s just how this shit works out. Life is ironic almost as a rule.

Um…I’m going to have to disagree. It’s pretty clear that you’re single issue, that being Israel, voter on this thing. Hate to tell you, but a lot of others are too…but, they’re definitely not pro-Israel. I’d venture to say Shapiro never rises above where he is now. He might be a great guy, but all I see over and over again is Israel, Israel, Israel in everything from his childhood to joining the IDF to wanting to enforce the anti-boycott law against Ben and Jerry’s (which, btw…how the fuck is that legal, anyway?). I supported Israel my whole life, until I finally decided it might not be that complicated and read into it, talked to you. After that, I’ll never vote for such a pro-Israel candidate. Judging from the polls, I’m not alone.
I’m just not sure what you’re looking for (other than singularly pro-Israel) in not liking Walz. Everyone likes Walz. Of course, we get the standard swift-boating from the GOP (of course, the guy who’s ‘in his unit’ they keep referring to is the guy who took over and failed dismally and then blamed Walz for his own failures). Maybe its because I’m from Oklahoma and Texas but…a retired teacher, football coach, veteran, goes hunting and fishing, makes dad jokes…shit, this is my kind of fella.

Dunno about everyone else, but humans associate. We just do.
I’m definitely not the only one…but, it might be my generation or demographic region I’m from

I see Kamala, I see A Different World with Denise, Whitley, DeWayne, Ron, Kim and Jaleesa, Freddie…and for some reason Queen Latifa.
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I see Tim Walz and I see our next door neighbor’s Dad who wore Carhartt, shopped at JC Penny, called me Von Erich all the time, after the great Von Erich wrestling family that at the Dallas Sportatorium and so close to us…took us fishing on the weekends and had a boat. His son, my best bud, we called Timbo. He’d give you a pocket knife for your birthday and have venison in the freezer in the garage. He’d make scratch chili on the weekend for the cul-de-sac.

There is this Tik Tok that shows fake Tim Walz tweets and compares them to JD Vance. It’s hilarious, but shows I’m not the only one thinking this way

“Just know that Tim Walz could teach me how to drive stick shift without making me cry once”
“Do you think Tim Walz has an agreement with the Harris campaign that once a week he can get back and mow the lawn?”
"Walz is the first VP in history to secure a fridge to the bed of an F-150 with ratchet straps and proclaimed, “Ok, that’s not going anywhere.”
“Tim Walz says ‘who let you in here!’ when he sees a friend at Chilis”
“Of course Tim Walz has cute state fair traditions with his family”
“One of the first things Tim Walz does as VP in the public light is give the finger guns to his security detail”
Tim Walz on a car trip when he hears the chex mix bag open in the backseat :palm_up_hand: :palm_up_hand: :palm_up_hand: :palm_up_hand:

When I see Josh Shapiro, I see Pierce from Lawless
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Tim Walz has big dad energy. What can you not like about that guy, when you’re actually honest? No doubt he watched the NWA Wresting in the 80s, drank out of the hose while mowing, and can teach you 14 knots.

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Put any bias aside…listen to Shapiro and he is the future of the party. The guy is the goods. I rather have Shapiro, Newsome or Wes Moore. All better options imho. Walz is terrible. He is a safe option. If you think I want Shapiro because he is Jewish is stupid. I rather of had newsome, Moore or Shapiro at the head of the ticket. Since we are being forced to choose Kamala who did not even get a single electoral vote when she ran I feel Dems could have done better. That being said we are forced with Kamala who is our best option- I don’t think we should be forced to like the VP pick.

Honestly if trump and Vance did not suck so much the Dems would be in trouble.

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Warden, I read your post. You seem like a smart guy but don’t buy into this bs walz/Kamala ticket. The Dems have done a phenomenal job of packaging these two. Kamala is a terrible candidate and her weakness in choosing a vp showed by picking walz. He is a great guy…:that is the pre-requisite for being the leaders of the free world. Jesus you sound like Bush 2 people who told me they liked him because you can have a beer with him.

Let’s be real if Kamala had to go through and open primary with those mentioned above she would finish last. The left did not want to look bad by over looking her…this is being forced fed to is. Wtf You can’t have it both ways. The right has bought into trump and his bs. Don’t be a sheep and buy into what we are being forced fed.

I hate trump so I will vote for Kamala but my money says she is a one term president. Her running mate is a joke. If not for trump being one of the most unliked person by half the country we would have seen a pub in the White House.

If trump somehow wins there are going to be many wondering if they had made a mistake.

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Eh, initially I misread your response. My mistake. But, it does seem like you’re remarkably pro-Israel and Shapiro is known for being remarkably pro-Israel, so that’s the connection I’ve made. Could be wrong. I’m wrong a lot.

Why? I’ve asked you several times. You’ve yet to answer. What exactly is your problem with the guy? I’ve never listened to a speech by Shapiro, Walz, Kelly or Newsome. As a secret, I hate political speeches. I never once listened to a Biden speech, not a single time.
So, tell me…what’s the deal? Why is Walz a bad guy and Shapiro a better guy? I have no idea who Wes Moore is. Newsome seems slick.

Lately, voting Democrat is pretty easy. Republicans are running on essentially everything immoral you can think of and telling everyone to disregard their ears and eyes. Makes it super easy.

Voting for Walz makes it pretty easy, actually. He wants to give 10 yr old free lunch and JD Vance wants to force 10 yr olds to have their rapist’s baby.
Trump is a lunatic who solely thinks about himself, a lifetime con artist and fraud, and criminal who favors our enemies over our allies.
Kamala Harris was the least like candidate during 2016 to me on the DNC side, but I’ll literally vote for a Ukulele over Trump. She’s quick, seems tougher than most, and reminds me of Queen Latifah. Who doesn’t love Queen Latifah?

I dunno, man. What’s your actual problem?

Also, if you want to go vote for Shapiro, write the fucking guy in. Vote for Tickle Me Elmo if you want. Nobody is forcing you to do anything, dude.

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I like Josh Shapiro not Ben Shapiro. I was not a fan of Joe Liberman. Just because someone is Jewish does not mean I like them. I could care less what you are. Josh Shapiro speaks and he comes off as a strong person. He speaks and he projects strength. You listen to him speak and you think that’s a president. I felt that way with Obama. I feel that way with newsome and Shapiro. I also feel like that with Wes Moore.

I am not a fan of Kamala and her running mate stinks. A month ago there was not a single democrat who wanted her. Now all of a sudden she is the second coming.

As for Walz he is weak. You really need me to give you a reason why? Shapiro and Walz were both asked by Kamala what their intentions were. Shapiro answered honestly and said he wants to be president. Now I don’t know if you have ever had to hire someone but you want people whose goals are to be the top dog one day. Walz said he is fine with being the VP. Guy is content with being the second in charge. That is fine but if for some reason Kamala can’t go he is in charge. This soft ass guy is not ready for that challenge. You can hate Mike Pence and not agree with his policies, he still wanted to be president. Walz…lol - joke

I also feel he brings nothing to the table. Not a fan. If he he ran for president the guy would not even win the state of Minnesota.

The left is giving us one choice. Did you vote for Kamala. Biden was forced out which I was fine with. He had no shot at trump. So what did the left do…i personally feel they knew Biden would drop out, waited so long to place Kamala in and give us zero choices. She was not entitled to the top spot. It was bs and if you don’t see through it that’s on you. I may not even vote. Kamala is not winning florida and I won’t vote for trump. I may just go and vote for the bottom of the ticket.

I am glad walz is giving free meals. The food they feed you is crap so really don’t know how that helps the kids out.

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You’re a weird dude, Elite.

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Hiding her? She’s holding a rally almost every day? What are you talking about?

The Trump campaign, of course…IS in a holding pattern of sorts. Why? They don’t pay their bills

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How, exactly, does it not bother you the guy doesn’t pay the very people he’s trying to work for?
Not paying the citizens of the country you’re trying to get elected by is seemingly beyond comprehension. You ignoring it and not caring is even more dumbfounding.

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Right- she’s doing scripted rallies, which is fine…. But where are her media interviews? Her press conferences? Where’s the debate?

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Gsc, really? I swear you just buy into any bs that is told to you. Kamala has been around for four years. She does not need to sit down with anyone right now. Her main goal is to get out and let voters get to see you in person. She does not need to do interviews right now. Just because trump tells you she is dumb is a joke. She is going to embarrass trump when she actually sits down to speak to someone who interviews her. She actually sounds competent when speaking.

Listen, I am not a Kamala fan but if you think she is not qualified to be where she is that’s on you. If you think she can’t do an interview that is on you. Kamala has been out there for four years. She is actually doing very well. The problem is your party should tell him stfu and not do these interviews because he sounds incoherent and out of touch. Once she does the interview and nails them your side will come up with some other bs. The reality is her schedule is maxed out. On top of that you realize she is VP and is still working.