Tim Walz

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been doing. lol. Attacking their policies. The stolen valor is just one bullet point I had on him. The majority of what I wrote is on policies and bills.

I don’t know how many times I have to say that I don’t like Trump as a person. I didn’t have him as my first choice in 2016. I thought that was clear.

Thanks for the correction.

^^
Lol…Complete meltdown

Any topic any of you can bring up…This maniac is extremely opposed to…Everyone he likes is a saint, and anyone you like is a devil.

Complete spazz mode.

My only concern with Trump being president is him NEVER Leaving. I truly think if he gets in this time, Trump won’t leave office in four years.

A. That’s a lot of bitching…In response to every mention of the word Trump for ONLY ONE CONCERN. Seems like a whole of a hell of a lot concerns, no?
B. Huh???

What has happened to trump? He has stopped going out. He seems to have cashed it in. He seems to have lost all of his steam. No new material.

What are you even talking about? He just proposed three debates with Kamala.

He’s planning to go back to Butler PA where he was shot in the head.

At least keep your hate on Trump rationale. We get that you hate him and think he’s the worst person to ever walk the earth but your criticisms aren’t making sense.

Indiana, he made up a story about his chopper almost going down. Hate…yeah I do hate him. He was terrible today.

The guy seems lost.

Sure I can agree with that since he has a bunch of progressive stances. Really my nightmare is that Dems triple down on some of these crazier positions. It’ll start giving elections to Pubs again. This is what I liked about Biden btw.

Heh, I don’t know if there’s any meaningful difference between being a moderate and a centrist in American politics. And if there is, I don’t know what it is.

I do like the term moderate because it’s opposed to the term radical, which I think is dangerous either on the left or the right.

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Indiana’s lead article in the thread tells you all you need to know about Waltz. The guy was a governor who let rioters burn down Minneapolis. Over two dozen cops were killed during the George Floyd riots, and an innocent cop has been sent to prison in an enormous miscarriage of justice. Chauvin acted exactly as prescribed in the police manual, including the restraint hold. With regard to Israel, Waltz is on the fence along with a huge segment of Democrats who are trying to pressure Israel from destroying the homicidal maniacs dug in tunnels underneath schools and hospitals in Gaza. Palestinians danced in the streets when the twin towers crumbled in New York. If you’ve ever been in West bank or Gaza, you can find a multitude of souvenirs, trinkets and charms showing the twin towers aflame. After October 7, the Palestinians danced again in the streets throwing candy to children. The new leader of Hamas is at this writing in an undiscovered tunnel somewhere in Gaza. He’s the mastermind of the October 7, slaughter of innocent Israelis as well as the kidnapping of hundreds of hostages. Imagine having any concern for these vicious bastards who kidnap, rape, and torture innocent people. Hostages? Civilized humans.don’t take hostages No cease fire should be considered until Hamas is history, and its leader captured and brought to trial in Israel for the terrible crimes committed against humanity. And, it’s the Democrat Party giving Israel shallow support in order not to lose the voting support of Muslim Americans who have open antipathy toward Israel. BTW, all the money used to construct the tunnels in Gaza came from donations from Western nations including the USA. Small wonder Kamala chose Waltz not Shapiro. I surmise it was because Shapiro either refused the offer or was not considered due to his being a Jew.

Warden gives you the Chomskyesque interpretation of the history of Israel and the so-called stolen land. Chomsky picks and chooses episodes to create his own history which has been shown repeatedly to contain faulty statistics. Both Dershowitz and my dear friend David Horowitz have disagreed vehemently with Chomky’s thinking. If you want to read the true history of Israel, you should go the true classic in the field, the book that liberal historians despise and try to denigrate, but it’s the most truthful account ever written. Read From Time Immemorial by Joan Peters. It’s the classic tome on the nation of Israel.

As a Jew myself, a secular one, I reject voting for the Democrat Party when it is the party of Omar, Cori Bush, and Talib. Many in my family think as does Elite80 that Democrats are the friends of Israel. They’ve been conditioned in the same fashion of many black Americans to vote robotically for Democrats. Even a cursory glance at recent history shows without doubt that Donald Trump is the most Israel friendly president in the last century.

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Many in my family think as does Elite80 that Democrats are the friends of Israel.
[/quote] - Bikki, I dont believe this just like I dont believe the right is friends of Israel. Isreal is a relationship of convience for the right. I am not putting you in this conversation. Most in the right feel support Israel because one day they feel that if there is some sort of final days…That if they go to Israel that they will end up in Heaven. It is just stupid. They could care less about Israel if there was not something for them to possibly gain in the end.

Elite89, Read Joan Peters. Every Jew should read it. You cannot trust liberals to write truth about Israel. The left despises Israel. The UN despises Israel. Libeling Israel is a past time of the liberal press and academia. Read the daily Israeli newspapers to gauge the sentiment in Israel. When Israel declared its independence in 1948, 800,000 were thrown out of Arab nations, their land stolen together with most of their wealth. At that time,the city of Baghdad had a huge Jewish population, comprising one quarter of the entire city’s inhabitants. A few years ago, a census was done of the Jews remaining in Baghdad. The number counted was 18 people. Do you ever hear of calls for Arabs to return stolen Jewish land in Arab nations? The histories written about stolen Arab land in Israel are completely inaccurate. When you read Peters, you’ll find she traced back the deeds and chain of title of properties and determined who the real thieves were. Remember for the last 2,500 years, that is, from time immemorial, Jerusalem has had a majority Jewish population. I am a big believer, Fish, in NEVER AGAIN.

You mean scratched in the ear?

Um…nope. 800,000 were thrown out of their homes in Palestine, 85% of their population. Not Arab nations…Palestine…by Israel.

There’s some history to this and the predominant settlement of Fallujah being attacked by rioters in 1947 and fleeing to Bagdhad in 1947, then the underground smuggling Jews out at a rate of 1000 a month, beginning in 1948 that establishes some context, but yeah. I think the # is 4 according to the World Jewish Congress.

Now, Joan Peters wrote that modern Palestinians were not indigenous to Palestine. It’s been peer reviewed as outright wrong and discredited by scholars shortly after it was published. Of course, DNA evidence shows that to be entirely incorrect.

Nope, I never do. Seems like a viable point to bring up in the discussion.

Discredited, widely.

Yeah, that’s entirely fake and easily verifiable. Basic history even shows that to be fake.
Damn dude, do you ever go even a little bit without lying your balls off? It’s wild. We need to put you up with Trump and see who can go the longest thread of words without lying.

Also, you support avowed neo-Nazis, praise them and try to circulate the website they post their manifestos on. NEVER AGAIN? Dude, you’d watch the entire Jewish population burn while holding marshmallows if it benefit your political point of view even by tangent.
The only reason you give a shit about Israel is when they’re fighting Muslims. If Israel was fighting Russians, you’d be putting together smores.

All of my friends in Russia are physicians, and all are Jews.

Chomsky and other discreditors have likewise been discredited, and Peters is more popular than ever.

Zero integrity, zero honesty dude. Have you been this way your whole life? I mean, this is basic history.
You’re like a used car salesman on steroids and in every aspect and conversation of your life.

Okay, finally. Let’s do this

False. 100%.
There are absolutely zero instances of stolen valor. He served for 24 years. Solid history, one to be proud of.

Not really sure. Don’t care, really. So, what happened if people “snitched”? It’s wild considering how many instances you right wingers have on “snitching” these days…$10k for anyone who can snitch on anyone getting an abortion, $10k for snitching on teachers, we can go on and on. What irony.

Good. They’re people. Why do they need “sanctuary” from people like you in the first place?

100% a lie. He owned a house in Mankato and sold it and now lives in the Governors Mansion. Do you even put any effort of any kind into this shit you post? It’s SO boring proving you wrong. You just move on. No effort, no accountability, just regurgitating moronic drivel

Really, how?
Do you mean like this guy, who you politically agree with who plead guilty?

Eh, misleading and out of context. His wife said they kept the windows open because it was a touchstone moment and the smell locked it in their memory so they wouldn’t forget.

First, no, it didn’t. It provides considerable flexibility for school districts to implement it. Secondly, providing sanitary menstrual care at no charge for students is fucking wonderful and a very compassionate idea that should have happened years ago.

In reality, he’s a damn good dude who’s been married to the same woman for 30 years, former factory worker, a former school teacher, a former football coach, a retired US Army non-commissioned officer, was a US House member and ranking member of the House Veteran’s Affairs Committee and then Governor. Free school lunches, abortion rights, some good huntin’ and fishin’, just a damned good man.

Vance, however, was a Yale venture capitalist who was employed and fully funded by Peter Thiel who doesn’t beleive that democracy and freedom are workable and we need a monarch who is billionaire friendly to enact a fascist society where women have no rights. I didn’t paraphrase that. He wrote it.

Ironically, Kamala and Timbo are both Americans married to Americans. Vance and Trump…married immigrants. I just think that’s hilarious.

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Really? First, I never said Chomsky. List each one and by whom they were discredited by. I’ll wait.

No kidding? By what data? I’ll wait.

Also, I wasn’t aware we judged historical non-fiction by its fanbase. Mass murders and Naziism are more popular than anytime since the 40s, too. Popularity doesn’t equal much. Burning Jews was super popular in Germany in the early 40s, doesn’t mean that was an awesome idea.
Brittney Spears sold more albums than the Beatles. Does that mean she’s a better artist?

I hope you argued better earlier in your life. You suck at this, dude. I expect more from you

Bikki is not interested in being honest.

The situation, plain and simple, is that bikki is old enough to support a post-truth reality.

Most of bikki’s posts do nothing except repeat extremely tired talking points. His literal strategy is to say something loud enough and often enough until people take it as fact. To hell with what actually happened.

If you look at bikki through this lens everything makes sense. He is literally campaigning for his side with every post.

Walz has claimed to be a “retired command sergeant major” as recently as 2018, but was actually a retired master sergeant, which is one rank below.

He has also claimed that he carried weapons “in war,” when he has admitted that he has never served in combat.

He has also claimed to be an Operation Enduring Freedom veteran, despite never serving in Afghanistan.

He is also facing accusations from fellow veterans who knew him that he retired to avoid a deployment to Iraq, which his supporters have disputed.

Waited three days to call the National Guard while his city burnt to the ground.