There is the warning shot

If your statements were true then it would not impact people who are immune compromised as their immune systems don’t respond. It would also be easy to defeat with immune suppressant drugs used for organ transplants, lupus, etc. it also would mean that Desantis is trying to push something that kills people, monoclonal antibodies.

Sure did. And he commanded them to spread the word - and - wait for it - love one another. Did he say love Catholics only? Don’t think I see that anywhere.

So by this logic - no one has died from AIDS. Got it.

GSC: Pro Life*

*Catholics and Americans only

The best line of defense is youth and overall health (exercise And diet). How many healthy people do you know that have died or been hospitalized? I don’t know any.

Great analogy…

You don’t die FROM AIDS… lol!

You die from a secondary infection or illness that AIDS causes. AIDS destroys your helper T cells. Helper T cells create the blue prints for B cells to create antibodies for pathogens.

Because those antibodies are never created A DIFFERENT PATHOGEN KILLS YOU (or pneumonia)! Not AIDS!

Just like with immunocompromised with COVID.

But if you never got AIDS - or COVID - would you have died. Right?

See how that works?

I can’t believe people have such a hard time comprehending this.

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The vaccine doesn’t prevent COVID or the spread of COVID! They already admit that.

They have been beaten down to “it’ll prevent severe COVID cases”

Lol. Knock it off already.

Moderna is holding up far better at preventing transmission.

It does prevent the spread. But it’s still possible to get it. And off those who are vaccinated and get it - hospitalizations are extremely low.

Again I don’t know why this is that hard. You say COVID (and AIDS) don’t kill you - but the 600,000 who have died from it wouldn’t have died - had they not gotten it.

But I forgot. Pro-life* QSC thinks COVID has only killed like 6 people.

Thank god you aren’t a doctor.

Blockquote
COVID-19 vaccines are effective at protecting you from COVID-19, especially severe illness and death. COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of people spreading the virus that causes COVID-19. If you are fully vaccinated, you can resume activities that you did before the pandemic. Learn more about what you can do when you have been fully vaccinated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html

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I can’t. He just doesn’t get it.

You just made the point that the vaccine PREVENTS COVID.

You just abandoned that in 10 seconds.

Don’t you see the lunacy?

If I don’t have a high risk of being hospitalized WHY DO I CARE ABOUT THE VACCINE?

Let me guess? So I don’t spread it?

The vaccine makes you more likely to spread.

You guys are insane. Wake up.

Show me proof. I just posted the exact opposite of that.

Let’s see it.

My 11 year old recently recovered from COVID. My wife and I are vaccinated. We didn’t get sick.

See how that works?

Go Google it 51. Have you been asleep this whole time?

The vaccine doesn’t stop the transmission of “Delta” right?

How convenient an excuse to blame the vaccine inefficiency on a “variant” that is 99.97% identical to the “Alpha” variant.

There is no delta. The vaccine simply doesn’t work.

Did you even read what I typed? My kid just recovered from COVID. We didnt get sick. As highly infectious as COVID is, you’d think we’d get sick, yes? You just said the vaccine didn’t prevent spread. Apparently in our case, it did.

I posted info from the CDC. You’re just voicing your opinion.

This is classic QSC. Not liking the data because it doesn’t fit your narrative so you just disagree with it. Same thing with the election. Butt hurt Trump lost so just says Biden cheated.

You made the statement. You say it doesn’t work and doesn’t prevent spread. So let’s see the proof.

Show me proof. Otherwise, you’re taking out of your ass.

GSC IF THE STUGOTZS CAN’T UNDERSTAND THIS SIMPLE CHART YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME…

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE DIFFERENCE?

GSC WHAT DID WE TELL JUNIOR STUGOTZ LAST YEAR ABOUT COVID AND THE FLU?

QSC - don’t be like Storm and not answer questions.

You made a statement. Now back it up with proof.

Looks like @GardenStateCane has disappeared.

Typical.

Lol! You know how many cases BEFORE the vaccine resulted in this same scenario? How do you know it was the vaccine? Did you scientifically set up an experiment to verify? Or maybe you just didn’t get it and never would have.

Why would I listen to information from known liars? Why would you?

The proof is all around you. We have about 60% of the population vaccinated and we are seeing a rise in cases IN THE SUMMER WHICH IS NOT PEAK SEASON FOR RESPIRATORY PATHOGENS.

I know I know… it’s “Delta.” Except even a variant should be restrained in the summer.

Start thinking for yourself. Knock it off already.

Great. Show me proof. Show me data. You haven’t done that.

As the vaccine became more available, daily infections plummeted from 200,000 per day to less than 20,000. This isn’t that hard.

Now, the different COVID strains since the original one have become more contagious - as like with anything else, a virus will lean toward survival.

Look at hospitalization rates. Vaccinated vs unvaccinated. It’s not even close. And those that are vaccinated are suffering far less severe disease.

Show me proof of your claims. Don’t just say it. I offered proof. Show me otherwise.

And while you’re at it - something else you haven’t (won’t) answer for me:

You may remember that my neighbor got COVID and died as a result of complications.

If he never got COVID, would he have died?

A person gets AIDS and dies as a result of a destroyed immune system.

If he never got AIDS, would his immune system still somehow get wiped out? Would he still have died?

I’m waiting.

Your anecdote about your family is data?

My friend had the same situation as you. Wife had Covid, he and his son didn’t get it. This was in March of 2020.

More like they changed the procedures for counting cases. Remember, it went from 1 test positive means your positive to if your positive, you have to retest and get a second positive to count. Then they changed PCR sensitivity. And and and - IT WAS OFF SEASON FOR COVID!

Lol!

They already have the Lamda ready to go once the delta loses credibility. Then it will be gamma and epsilon and zeta. You are a drone. There are limitless “strains” they can manufacture.

As Storm says- where is the test for Delta? It doesn’t exist.

I already showed you. The problem is that you can’t form an opinion unless an “authority” sponsors it for you. That’s why you’re a weak minded individual. Can’t think for yourself.

Where? I don’t see any of this. Your opinion isn’t proof or data. You don’t like what you’re seeing so you go full Q and just make up other reasons.

Show me proof of your claims. Don’t just say it. I offered proof. Show me otherwise.

And while you’re at it - something else you haven’t (won’t) answer for me:

You may remember that my neighbor got COVID and died as a result of complications.

If he never got COVID, would he have died?

A person gets AIDS and dies as a result of a destroyed immune system.

If he never got AIDS, would his immune system still somehow get wiped out? Would he still have died?

I don’t even know why I bother. Have fun continuing to pretend to be pro life. “I value all life. As long as that life is American. And Catholic.”

Since the CDC stopped reporting breakthrough cases in May, we have to look at the state level for the data. This report did the work for us: COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases: Data from the States | KFF

Looks pretty clear to me that being vaccinated gives you a better chance at surviving. Factor in that the majority of the vaccinated fall into the higher risk age groups and categories. Also, consider that they were vaccinated earlier and the vaccines appear to decrease in efficacy after 6-8 months. I have zero doubt that the Pfizer vaccine should not be used as its efficacy dropped to 40% against Delta.

Or you have antibodies like many other folks right?