Autopsy is normally for cause of death. My understanding is that Toxicology reports have to be requested. They aren’t requested unless their is a potential criminal case or the family asks for it.
Understood- but this was a study to understand why these deaths were occurring. If they didn’t order toxicologies I would immediately question the study’s validity. We’re talking about athletes here. It should have been in the scope of work to cover PED’s as a cause of death, no?
You would think that. I agree that should be what happened, but who knows what happened. Many of these (maybe most?) didn’t even occur in the US.
And toxicology only picks up what you look for. If, for example, everyone’s taking a steroid that doesn’t show up on steroid tests, then perhaps the toxicology would miss it too. Or maybe the sport is keeping a lid on a rampant drug problem with its athletes. I dunno, just spitballing.
You said you looked into the study, right? Were they the ones actually ordering the autopsies, or were they merely collecting whatever information was available and analyzing it? It could be the latter.
Also, at the bottom of the wiki page there was another link about this problem in athletes, which also says “usually soccer players” but includes others. More interesting stuff.
I thought about this…And it could definitely have some merit. But I don’t know if that explains why results are so 1 sided…I.e. not a SINGLE nfl or nba issue?
I.e. which drugs and why do we think soccer players are using them more?
Again are soccer players well known drug users? I’ve never heard this, anyone add anything else?
There have been nba and nfl players that have died from cardiac arrest.
There are 65,000 pro soccer players vs 1700 NFL. Thus, 38x more likely to have heart attacks just on the number of players.
Based on wiki: List of American football players who died during their careers - Wikipedia
Two have died from cardiac arrest since 2000. Thus, it would be similar to around 80 soccer players in the same timeframe.
Eight nba players have died in the same timeframe (since 2000). There are 450 players in the nba or 145x in soccer. Thus 1155 would be the estimate if 65000 nba players.
Soccer players seem to be much much higher. It’s weird.
Could be the constant running causes some kind of issue with their cardiovascular system.
These guys run for hundreds of hours every month. It’s insane.
We’d need the ratio for all basketball played everywhere and those deaths if we are going to compare to 65k soccer.
(614/5):65000 = 1:528
(8/20):450 = 1:1125
The sample size for NBA is pretty small. Soccer is roughly 2x more likely
The second article I linked has more data about other sports.
Sudden cardiac death occurs in approximately one per 200,000 young athletes per year, usually triggered during competition or practice. The victim is usually male and associated with soccer, basketball, ice hockey, or American football, reflecting the large number of athletes participating in these sustained and strenuous sports. For a normally healthy age group, the risk appears to be particularly magnified in competitive basketball, with sudden cardiac death rates as high as one per 3,000 annually for male basketball players in NCAA Division I. This is still far below the rate for the general population, estimated as one per 1,300–1,600 and dominated by the elderly. However, a population as large as the United States will experience the sudden cardiac death of a competitive athlete at the average rate of one every three days, often with significant local media coverage heightening public attention.
So maybe it isn’t so one-sided to soccer after all.
There’s also an important lesson in statistics and scale here. One death in the US every 3 days. If the GWP started posting each one, its readers would be in an uproar over the vaccine. It’s important to have perspective.
As a retired collegiate soccer player, I can attest that we don’t like Maradona simply for his skill, but for his fast lifestyle too.
The weirdness continues.
, the risk appears to be particularly magnified in competitive basketball , with sudden cardiac death rates as high as one per 3,000 annually for male basketball players in NCAA Division I.
I’d love to see that list…For a reference point, in the random list on the same wiki page…There is 1 college basketball player on that list…Hank Gathers.
Not even hinting at foul play…But I would be shocked if that number is accurate.
Wait until we see the cricket numbers! 
I just glanced over this…And I do see the 1/3100 number for male cbb hoopers again. I’m headed to play poker, will check it out later tonite or tomorrow. My apologies if this is something you already posted above and I missed it 305 and all.
No, it’s interesting. I didn’t do more than glance at the hoops numbers.
RIP
Wish I knew what the answer for me on this shit was.