They don’t believe me for some reason.
I’d vote for a bum on the street before a Bush or Cruz or Fill in the Blank GOP establishment filth.
I’m actually with them on this and they can’t just concede the point. It would take an arrow out of their quiver.
Which is why you were so fond of Trump.
At its very core- yea. Trump embodies the third way. An escape from the 2 party duopoly.
He opposes policies on both sides and offers an alternative that is based on nationalism, American sovereignty, and rule of law.
False. Covid is a health issue. Trump made it political. The fact checks about Covid are about scientific consensus. It’s just that the GOP doesn’t agree with scientific consensus, never has (i.e. secondhand smoking, climate change, etc).
False. They are fact checked. It’s just the case that the GOP currently has a aversion to telling the truth. Let’s go back a bit - secondhand smoke causing cancer. Let’s say Twitter existed in the 80s and early 90s. The GOP talking point was secondhand smoke does NOT cause cancer nor does it increase your chances of getting cancer. Again, that was the outright, public talking point to the point some of the major conservative “think tanks” were created just for this purpose, like Heartland Institute.
So…again, we’re in the 80s and 90s and people are tweeting about secondhand smoke. The GOPers like McConnell openly stated it does not cause cancer or increase your chances. If Twitter “fact checks” him with scientific consensus at the time at what he is saying is false and it’s in the public’s health to verify and publicly fact check -
Are they “correcting” towards the “leftward establishment narrative” or is he lying and he got fact checked? Are they “correcting” towards the “leftward establishment narrative” or is the GOP at the time relying on the benefits of lying to the American public because their largest donors were tobacco companies?
It’s not my fault your party relies on lying and the vast majority of my party at least uses mainstream, agreed upon reality and scientific consensus to make decisions and policy?
Again, you don’t really understand source material. Freedom caucus members are outright frauds and nutjobs from the dawn of the Tea Party movement, which codified ignorance as a baseline. The LEAST reliable people in the government I would source are the Freedom Caucus members.
Now, again…the very words of section 230 negate your entire point. It’s not long. All you have to do is read it.
It is very revealing that Democrats want to amend and change it for reasons like fighting child trafficking, drug trafficking, fighting misinformation, etc…while Republicans want to end it because they get fact check on their lies and think the world is biased against them because they thing the majority of the world is wrong on the majority of topics. The irony is that if you got what you wanted and we ended Section 230, the entire social mediasphere would end overnight, including youtube. The entire side grift of the GOP and its accolytes would cease…everyone would be de platformed immediately.
All you really want is to lie and not be called out on it. That’s what this is about…this and your never ending victimhood
I never said I didn’t see this. What I said that I didn’t see was the made up condition in Section 230 that you have thrice failed to cite.
In other words, you’re wrong.
You have said again and again that ALL SITES ARE BIASED, and you’re correct. Everyone has bias. Section 230 does not prohibit bias.
In other words, you’re wrong.
I agree there’s some of this, but I think GSC’s point might be that the opposite doesn’t happen. That skewed Dem talking points aren’t corrected. And, even without a specific example, I’m willing to concede that may be true.
But the fact remains that this is completely legal. GSC knows every single outlet is biased and is allowed to be biased. Section 230 does not prohibit that.
In other words, he’s wrong.
That’s the thing, I believe that’s a cop-out. I think the entire GOP plays this game, too. Rather than accept failure for policies at their core, they call themselves some new little group WITHIN THE GOP (they’re all registered Republicans) to disavow “the establishment” and this negate responsibility for said decision.
Name one thing the Tea Party pushed that wasn’t ALSO supported by the GOP. In fact, name one Tea Party leader who WASN’T in the GOP. Moreso, name one organization who worked with the Tea Party who wasn’t a GOP organization…ALEC, Freedomworks, etc.
Now, as for MAGA…did the GOP vote for everything Trump wanted? Did the GOP “establishment” fight Trump on anything? Is the GOP STILL PAYING TRUMP’S LEGAL BILLS and the legal bills of his kids?
Hell, Newt Gingrich literally WROTE NAAFTA…was he fighting Trump during the campaign on the issue of globalism or NAAFTA? I literally saw Gingrich on FOX during the campaign talking shit about NAAFTA and globalists. Holy shit, the gall. You have to hand it to the dude…though, he did also divorce his wife while she was recovering from cancer and still in the hospital.
He’s Catholic, BUT a “special” Catholic who is against the Pope and picks and chooses, apparently. He’s responsible for his beliefs in Catholicism for anything the Church does or says or its history. He’s a “special” Catholic.
He espouses Qanon beliefs. He states he believes what at least Wikipedia and every other article on it has said, that it’s a cabal of Satanic pedophiles who are also cannibals who run an international sex trafficking ring of children who conspired against Donald Trump and the “Storm” is when they all go down and Trump has secretly been working to fight them this whole time."
BUT, he’s not a Qanon follower.
My premise is that GSC has a running theme…he doesn’t take responsibility for his beliefs. Period. He’s not MAGA, he’s a Republican, because Republicans ARE MAGA and MAGA are Republicans. It’s just a hat.
I’ve never argued the LEGALITY of it.
I’m telling you that if and when Section 230 is stricken from the statute- this will be the reason.
Bias
Censorship
Acting as a publisher while hiding under platform status.
What isn’t there to understand about this?
This thread alone proves that we are able to have discussions. It’s been very civil too.
No one denied Congress might eventually change the law because of bias. You’re literally inventing a straw man argument.
What we disagreed with was YOUR statement:
This is what you said. You are now backing away from these claims and gaslighting us, pretending we’re crazy for ever calling you out while you try to change the subject.
We know what you said.
You know what you said.
We know you’re wrong.
You know you’re wrong.
Stop dancing around this.
Imagine thinking the left didn’t make covid political?
This is pure fucking comedy
The funniest part about this statement skeeter.
Trump has always, and continues to, push the vaccine and take credit for it. I’ve criticized him for it.
And if you go back to pre-Biden days, there are a ton of democrats saying they don’t trust the vaccine and they don’t know if they would take it.
So who was politicizing it?
The man who has been consistent from day one that it’s safe and effective and has taken it?…. Or the people who flip flopped on it…. When it was Trumps they said, no gracias…. When it was Biden’s they said give it to us!
This dude is such a clown.
Technicalities…Technicalities GSC…Orange Man Bad no matter what. These people are distraught fucking maniacs
One of the funniest parts is the way the left shifted gears and changed the focal point of their crisis milking/pandemic politicization…It started off with their #1 go to…RACISM. Remember how racist Trump’s travel ban was and we had every fucking moron liberal politician of note on camera telling us how covid was nothing to worry about…Come to NYC! Look I’m out in the streets! I’m traveling! Let’s go to chinatown!
They called the audible real quick when they figured out they could scare people to death (With moron Trump’s help of not knowing when to shut his mouth) and use the pandemic to win an election.
Then, of course they broke racism (They can’t operate their political party without it) back out during the summer. Disgusting fucking people
Lololol
Out of convenience, you all suddenly do…
Yes yes yes yes
QFT
they don’t care about democracy, never have. Never will.
That is the Republican party -constantly running from itself while we try to point out the failure in the moment.
You are such an idiot it is astounding
“Massive combined inoculations to small children is the cause for big increase in autism,” he tweeted in 2012, following that up in 2014 with: “Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!”
During a Republican primary debate in 2015 he said it was the size of the vaccines - “meant for a horse” - that caused the problems.
Trump also reportedly held meetings with anti-vaccine activists during his 2016 election campaign.
Not even getting into the details of trump calling it a hoax, blaming China, or brainwashing his idiot followers by totaling politicizing the public health issue.