This is what everybody has said for months though.
There’s nobody in here saying US military has boots on the gorund in Ukraine, except maybe GSC thinks special forces might be involved. I argued against that a year ago, although just my opinion.
So what do you want for this statement? A cookie? A pat on the back for agreeing with President Biden?
We have no boots on the ground fighting in Ukraine. We are not involved in combat. No one says otherwise.
You mean the Army?
Sure. I want to look at the Army because we were both talking about US Military.
When you asked me WHERE IS THE US MILITARY? I told you, they’re involved in the logistics of this war.
This is false.
We have Carrier Strike Groups supporting Israel, shooting down Houthi missiles.
We’ve only been saying the same thing over and over for months.
Moving equipment, ammo, munitions, materiel. Getting shit where it needs to be, making sure troops have shit they need… THIS IS LITERALLY HOW TO WIN WARS.
This is how Russia shit the bed when they stormed Kyiv.
And I quoted this shit for you before:
“Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics.”
General Barrow, USMC
“I am tempted to make a slightly exaggerated statement: that logistics is all of war-making, except shooting the guns, releasing the bombs, and firing the torpedoes.”
ADM McCormick, USN
Get it yet? Ukraine is shooting the guns, releasing the bombs, and firing the torpedoes. The US and the West is doing the heavy lifting of manufacturing and supplying this proxy war, operating from within NATO countries and delivering needed aid to Ukraine.
IF THE US MILITARY IS MOVING EQUIPMENT AND PLANNING ON THE BATTLE FIELD TO WIN THIS WAR ON TOP OF PROVING WEAPONS HOW IS THE US MILITARY NOT INVOLVED IN THE WAR?
Of course we trained them, but it’s not like you can flip a military around on a dime. Ukraine still can’t competently execute combined arms operations or mechanized assaults above the brigade level.
GSC, buddy, you’re better than this. Let’s not deny that Ukraine is a Soviet army.
All their pre-aid equipment was Soviet. Even much of the aid we supplied was Soviet. This was done by raiding countries with Soviet materiel.
There is a reason giving them a MIG is much easier than supplying an F-16…
No? You don’t have any ACTUAL, SPECIFIC questions?
Okay, I’ll get the ball rolling then. Let’s talk about the PATRIOT air defense system.
“Job training for a PATRIOT fire control enhanced operator requires 10 weeks of Basic Combat Training and 20 weeks of Advanced Individual Training with on-the-job instruction.” ADA AIT | Fort Sill | Oklahoma | Fires Center of Excellence
This is from Fort Sill, OK.
NOT COINCIDENTALLY, this is where Ukrainian troops were sent for PATRIOT training.
Weird, does this mean there is US Military participation in Ukraine aid?
"We’re confident that we’ll be able to get the Patriots there on an expedited timeline, I’ll just leave it at that,” Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said at a Pentagon briefing.
“Our assessment is that the Ukrainian soldiers are impressive and absolutely a quick study due to their extensive air defense knowledge and experience in a combat zone,” Morgan said. “It was easier, though never easy, for them to grasp the Patriot system’s operation and maintenance concepts.”
Wow! That might not be a bunch of capital letters, but IT IS a whole bunch of facts lined up into a coherent argument.
All to prove just how wrong Stormy was once again…
Dude, the Nord Stream pipeline doesn’t take amazing training, and especially not on the level of coordinated multi-brigade assaults.
A small special ops team is a vastly different thing. And Nord Stream doesn’t even take that. It could literally have been a few divers / engineers who put that together. It’s not even combat!
9 countries have a Baltic Sea shore line and operate navies within the Baltic Sea:
Denmark, Germany, Poland, Russia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, and Sweden
NATO operates a fleet there as well.
There is a shit load of surveillance in the area because it’s basically a potential fault line with so many adversary countries within a few miles of each other.
But you want us to believe it was an easy operation to conduct?
Yes. The sea is a pretty wild place. Just recently there was that Chinese ship that sailed by and dropped its anchor and cut 2 different internet lines. Shit’s wild out there, yo.
If you think there’s 24/7 surveillance on all lengths of all pipelines… I don’t know what to tell you… except there’s not.