Bikki has never seen a dead black guy he wished was alive
The procedure is no longer needed, appropriate, or legal when a cuffed man is laying prone and not moving. Why is this so difficult for you?
This statement from you is odd considering you’re of the position he did nothing wrong and should be a free man.
I wouldn’t have charged him at all, 51 I think he’s innocent… The only possible charge IMO was manslaughter. Judge in trial was terrible and made numerous mistakes that will not stand up to appeal. Due to the political nature of the case, its venue in Minnesota, Chauvin goes to prison as a political prisoner. IMO, the murder charge against Mohamed Noor was far more compelling than that of Chauvin’s. Though I think Noor was guilty, I would have concurred with the Supreme Court and tossed the murder charge reducing the crime to manslaughter. The standard for conviction is reasonable doubt. I find myself having at least some doubt in Noor, and no doubt in Chauvin whom I think was absolutely innocent. Chauvin should wind up with ten years less the time he has already spent in prison. Guarding Chauvin in prison will also be a task since there is no more racist place on earth than a penitentiary. Even white liberals have wound up members of the Aryan Nation in order to survive. Some years ago, like about 50 years, there was an excellent article appearing in Playboy that discussed the remedies available to liberals in prison.
Chauvin followed the book. The rules in the police handbook do not specify that anything other than suppression should be considered. It’s not a matter of personal judgment. Suppose the career criminal got loose and injured someone in the crowd. That he was suppressed for such a lengthy time was due to the lateness of the ambulance which the police called on a timely basis. It was established during the trial, that Chauvin’s knee was not on Floyd’s neck but on his shoulder. It was also established there was no trauma whatsoever to his neck. What likely killed Floyd were the drugs he ingested and the exertion of fighting with cops against being loaded in the cruiser. Floyd had four times the killing dose of fentanyl in his system. Isn’t it possible that a megadose of fentanyl which kills more people than any other drug could have killed Floyd? Floyd’s heart was in horrible condition. To find Chauvin guilty you must conclude that the drugs could not have killed him. To me that dog doesn’t hunt.
He. Stopped. Moving.
He. Went. Unconscious.
Chauvin continued to lean on him.
He was cuffed on his face with Chauvin and 3 other cops around him.
Where the hell was he going?
I’m glad you weren’t a juror on the case, and if he wary of you being on any jury involving a white cop and black perp - you clearly side immediately with the cop, regardless of circumstance.
Had Floyd escaped and he didn’t continue suppressing him, the cops are liable. Maybe he thought Floyd was playing dead. Why was it Chauvin’s fault if the guy had a heart attack from an overdose and extreme exertion. You saying there is no reasonable doubt, and there is profound doubt. People die on treadmills during stress tests with a ph?ysician present. Floyd had FOUR times the. lethal limit of fentanyl. Why would Chauvin’s knee be a greater factor than the most deadly drug in America that kills a hundred thousand people a year? Do you think Chauvin could have a fair jury in Minneapolis when a hang em high crowd was assembled outside of the courthouse? One of the jurors was an activist an d didn’t reveal same. That in of itself could have the entire trial set aside. OJ trials was illustrative how a jury in one venue will come to an incredibly biased verdict while in another arrive at a decision based on available evidence. OJ was probably a murderer, and he was a successful one.
Oh god- knock it off already. So dramatic.
And a physician in the Floyd case disagreed with you.
I’ll take the guy with the license.
He was unconscious. Not breathing. He continued to kneel on him. Chauvin was required to render aid at that point and didn’t.
Sorry Bikki. You’re just wrong here.
First, there should have been no trial in Minneapolis. Second, the jury was tainted. Third, the pathologist changed his original statement. Fourth, Chauvin is not a doctor. Fifth, Floyd had four times the lethal limit of fentanyl in his blood stream, Sixth, the cops made a timely call for an ambulance that arrived very late. Seventh, Chauvin followed the police handbook showing a picture of a neck restraint, and recently engaged in a training seminar on suppression techniques. Eighth. Floyd fought with cops putting strain together with the most deadly drug in America on his heart that had severe occlusions. Nineth. A bad heart, extreme exertion fighting with cops resisting arrest with four times the legal limit of a deadly drug in his veins do satisfy the standard of reasonable doubt.
This was not a murder. Compare the reactions of Chauvin with those of Mohammad Noor who plainly assasinated an innocent woman at close range. Chauvin’s biggest legal problem at this juncture is the color of his skin. Derek Chauvin was railroaded into prison, did not have proper council facing the most formidable prosecution team in the history of Minnesota jurisprudence. No way this judgment passes through appeal without modifications. Bearing in mind the Supreme Court’s handling of Noor, I see an innocent Derek Chauvin sentenced for manslaughter alone. Derek Chauvin is a political prisoner even if he erred not detecting the suspect not breathing or lying motionless. He followed procedures fatihfully.
Then we have the specter of the other officers involved in the case. Look for a change of venue to be granted. No way these officers should be charged with anything.
BIKKI STOP WASTING YOUR TIME THE TRUTH IS COMING…
IN OTHER NEWS STORM FOUND DIAPER FACE CATFISHY AND THE STUGOTZS…
This is irrelevant.
Police training specifically states that once a suspect is down and injured, they are required to render aid.
He clearly didn’t do that. Where’s your outrage at this egregious breach of protocol?
Until a knee was on his neck and he fell asleep. See my comment above.
It literally was.
Oddly, I’ve been to court proceedings in the Soviet Union. I saw more justice there than I saw in the case of Derek Chauvin. So making a mistake subduing a five time loser who was beating up your fellow police is murder. That’s ridiculous. It didn’t matter that he had ingested enough fentanyl to kill four people. It didn’t matter that his heart was ready to go into cardiac arrest any day. Chauvin made a mistake not noticing that he was not breathing prior to arrival of an ambulance that had been summoned. Instead it’s murder that Chauvin didn’t treat the guy. For subjects that cannot breath, you place them face down. I could have tried this case myself and won it. No way I would have acceped denial of motion for change of venue. I’d have argued that till hell freezes over in every appellate court in the state… A fair trial with a big lynch mob waiting outside. A jury that was not sequestered. A pathologist who changed his testimony. And, in the same state Mohammed Noor walks away from a murder trial in which his crime was tantamount to assassination. In Washington, a Capital Cop is charged with nothing after ridiculously killing a young woman. This is not justice 51. This was a case of racial bias to quiet a mob outraged by the death of a societal parasite. Imagine building statues honoring this guy. This is effete woke society in a nation that has lost its values.
If the state Supreme Court throws out the murder conviction substituting manslaughter, I’d opine that it would be as much justice as available in Minnesota, but I’d still believe Chauvin should have been found innocent of all charges.
Where the fuck was he beating up anyone? He was cuffed. Yes, he was initially struggling, and he was put in the car. I think the cops made a grave mistake by taking him back out and putting him on the ground.
But he was the first one who SHOULD have known, considering he knelt on his neck until he stopped moving. And again, it’s his job then to render aid.
It was 1,000% justice. You believe a knee on your neck won’t effect you? Won’t possibly smother you? Go mess with a cop and find out.
That said, I do agree that no statues are necessary. Floyd is not a martyr. He was far from perfect and was not a civil rights figure.
That said, he shouldn’t have died under Chauvin’s knee.
I look at from the legal side, 51. The venue motion was a terrible judicial error. It’s amazing tome that it went to final judgment rather than mistrial.
The trial of Chauvin’s fellow officer ought to be interesting. It will result in more political prisoners, or they might walk which would IMO be the right judgment.
A bad heart, four times the deadly limit of fentanyl which killed a hundred thousand people last year, and George Floyd dies of a knee that was NOT on his neck but upper back. Be careful that no one climbs on your back. There must be a death zone somewhere near your shoulder. And, you shouldn’t worry about fentanyl dosages, George Floyd was taking four times the deatly amount and with his ailing heart fought off and defeated several cops trying to force him into a patrol vehicle. Send Chauvin to prison for making an error in subduing the career criminal in accordance with his police manual. Free the Somalian who assassinated a woman at short range. Send whitey to jail.
I’m looking at the legal side too. And his accessories to murder should be convicted as well. They stood idly by not even suggesting that Chauvin give him some air.
They should complete indifference to this man. He was far from perfect, everyone knows that. He should have just gotten in the car and say there until they took him to the station.
But because he didn’t, he deserved to die?