YOU ARE BECAUSE WITHOUT DEATHS THERE IS NO TOPIC…
330 MILLION PEOPLE YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS SICK EVERYDAY…
IS THE FLU BACK YET?
NO YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE DEATHS BECAUSE THEY CAN’T JAMB SICK SENIORS WITH OTHER HEALTH SENIORS TO JACK UP THE DEATH RATE…
I believe this is what you are trying to write:
No, you are not seeing the deaths because they can’t jab sick seniors, with other health issues, to jack up the death rate.
If so:
2020- Seniors die due to Covid and co-morbidity reasons
2021- 80% of Seniors have the vaccine and deaths are down a bunch
Are you really claiming that the deaths are down because they can’t jab sick to kill them?
WHAT I POSTED IS WHAT I MEAN…
THEY STUCK INFECTED SENIORS BACK INTO THE NURSING HOMES WITH HEALTH UNINFECTED SENIORS TO GET THEM SICK AND RAISE THE DEATH COUNTS…
THEY DID IT IN NY, NJ, CA, MI AND PA…
THIS WAS A SCAMDEMIC…
OH!!! So you mean to tell me all of the deaths in the USA from Covid came from 5 states that pushed their numbers higher. Interesting.
Is this better:
No, you are not seeing the deaths because they can’t jamb sick seniors into the same facilities as healthy seniors to jack up the death rates.
I’m not. I directly addressed it. That’s the opposite of avoidance.
The issue with the virus is as long as you have hospital beds it’s not terrible. If you run out of hospital beds, things could get bad. The vaccine can spread quicker than we can make hospital beds.
The analogy I used for a friend was it’s like if Netflix had an issue processing credit cards.
On Day 1, let’s say everyone with a last name ending in A didn’t have the CC processed via software. They had to manually call the person and get the credit card number. No big deal, the existing staff can handle it. Cash is all collected. The CEO asks if it’s a problem. It’s not, we are able to handle it. (aka…there are enough beds). Don’t even need to fix the issue.
On Day 2, everyone with ending in A-C had to be manually called. Ok, get a few more people on the project, knock it out. Cash is all collected. CEO asks if there is a problem…nope. We can handle it. Maybe we should fix the issue.
On day 3, everyone with ending in A-G had to be manually called. Oh shit…that’s more than we can handle. We don’t have enough people to call that many people and collect CC numbers. We aren’t going to collect all the cash we thought we were going to have. (We are at max bed capacity). The thing that wasn’t a problem is now a problem. We have to fix the issue.
On day 4, everyone ending in A-P had to be manually called. Well now you are fucked. You have way more work than people because the thing keeping your problem at bay (manually work/hospital beds) are exhausted. You severely miss cash collections, and you are fired.
My sense is the vaccination rates in the US now are at a point where we don’t have to worry about not enough beds for serious infections, but if the virus continues to mutate to a “version” that isn’t stopped by the original batch of vaccines, we are back at square one. And we could get to a point where there aren’t enough beds because people aren’t as cautious as in 2020.
You can think it’s not dangerous because of the death rate, but the death rate is really helped by access to top notch health care in the US. If people don’t have access to that, then death rate goes up. It’s not that dangerous because enough people are taking precautions to keep the problem “solvable”. If everyone were to act like it weren’t dangerous, it actually would be.
If you know someone that was intubated, their chance of survival plummets if they don’t get the intubation (see Peru).
Too late. The virus has already mutated as viruses do.
This shot is already less likely to be effective against the new variants.
You you are young and healthy with a 99.9% survival rate and the rate of negative reactions and death is higher from the vaccine (definitely true on reaction side), you would be foolish not to think of avoiding the vaccine.
The people that are vulnerable and at risk, sure. Take it. Protect yourselves.
The hospital bed issue was never really there in any of the initial COVID scare with or without mask mandates, lockdowns etc.
This virus isn’t doing away anytime soon. We’ve never had real vaccines for coronovirus’s in the past. It would be silly to think this is the silver bullet.
Anecdotally, in the hundreds of people I’ve been in contact with on a daily basis I don’t know a single person that had more than a mild reaction to COVID.
Not a single one. My wife’s 95 year old grandma got it and survived. I know people have died from it. I just haven’t seen it in friends, extended family, friends of friends etc.
You know you have been told people have died from it. That’s what I know. But I also know that I was told Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
I know I was told that global warming science is settled.
I’ve been told white supremacy is the biggest threat to democracy. So- you know…
I agree with your post but I have to remind every one- the “delta” is a mutation… not a “variant.”
If it was a variant we would all be in true potential harm.
The problem is you and I both know that isn’t how vaccines work. For elderly people to not get covid, they need to get vaccinated, and a majority of people not elderly also need to get vaccinated. You, as an individual, don’t need any vaccine. Polio, MMR…if you don’t get the vaccine you won’t get polio or measles because everyone else is doing the work for you. It’s like winning at tug of war not even pulling because the rest of your team is, and then coming to the conclusion that pulling in tug of war is not needed to win.
I can either choose to get vaccinated, lower my chance of acquiring/spreading it, and deal with the 1/1M chance of “death from the vaccine”, or I can not get vaccinated, not lower my chance of acquiring/spreading it, and also deal with the chance of death from covid.
The hospital bed thing was a major issue. Hospitals were having to double or triple their ICU rooms. Ask anyone that worked in a hospital if Covid was pushing things to the edge…
Also, congrats on your anecdotal evidence. I don’t know anyone that died in 9/11 or the Holocaust. You should look of the definition of anecdotal…
Almost 500,000 more people died in the US in 2020 than 2019. Unless we can’t count dead bodies very well, seems like something was happening in 2020 that lead to a higher body count.
Storm- riddle me this…
How could the same virus produce 2 entirely flip flopped results on the same test?
In US 99% of cases are unvaccinated.
But in Singapore it’s the opposite? In UK it’s the opposite? In India it’s the opposite?
Hmmmmmmmmm…
After the elections audits are over I would love to do an audit on COVID death certs. I bet you we’d find some interesting “anomalies”
God damn you are dumb. I didn’t mention Covid.
If 500k more people die in 2020 than in 2019, then what is a plausible explanation for that rise?
There are really only two options…1) Covid 2) The death number is wrong (aka we can’t count dead bodies…which would mean a whole host of other issues)
Isn’t that weird to you?
In a heavily populated area of central Indiana not a single person in my company of 150 or any of the friends and family of ANYONE I know died or was severely affected. Quite a few had it.
The contacts I have with friends of friends, family etc etc is a lot. Probably in the high hundreds. Lots of work contacts.
Not a single person in over a year and a half. And I’m not talking about dying, I’m talking about even being severely impacted.
I guess all of my contacts are just really healthy? The odds of that seem low no?
Thank you for telling me I have a choice. That’s refreshing. I choose the no option on an experimental vaccine.
Without knowing your age, I can’t say.
The older you are, the more likely you will know someone that has died from it. My guess would be your social group consists of mostly working age individuals, and your “retired” group is your parents, in-laws, and maybe some former colleagues who are now retired.
So maybe 5% of your social network is over the age of 65?
All of this really comes down to stratifying data/Simpson’s paradox. Most people in the US suck a math, so it’s not hard to see where the struggle to understand the nuances of the problem comes from. It’s my day job though.
And for the record, we spend WAYYYY to much money on elderly. Between drugs, nursing homes, no assisted suicides…the last 10 years of your life is like 80% of your lifetime cost. It’s a complete waste of money.
People expect drugs to save the last 50 years of poor life choices. Smoke, get fat, never exercise…there are 10 drugs for that…they cost $5k a month but you are on medicare so who cares! (Funny how R’s love Medicare but don’t like the ACA…wonder why?..why don’t they ask to drop Medicare and pay for health care with their savings THEY earned in their working years and get the damn goverment out of their HEALTHCARE and LIFE??? 
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