That’s awesome. But, you weren’t posting when it WAS MAGA. You were deflecting, ignoring. You find one that isn’t MAGA and think you’re in a celebratory parade. You’ve already shown your character, or lack of.
Why is the Richmond PD changing their story about this?
I don’t remember the last shooting that was “MAGA”.
Furthermore, pertaining to the point I made, and 305 agreed with, I think it’s pointless to cheerlead on whether it’s our guy or the other guy doing these things.
These are deranged individuals that run the spectrum.
Me pointing out non MAGA folks is to counter your contention that it’s MAGA folks that are carrying these attacks out.
Really?
It was May 14th. How, exactly, did you forget that?
Oh, so every racist white guy that shoots people is automatically a Trump supporter and hard core MAGA?
Was he at Trump rallies too?
Don’t really care either way. Point stands that crazy people commit these killings regardless of political party.
You want to paint all MAGA people as terrorists, so you try to use any shooting you see to prove a point.
And it’s a dumb point.
Well, let’s examine that, shall we?
On May 14th 2022 Payton S. Gendron went into a supermarket in a predominantly black neighborhood in Buffalo, NY, livestreaming, as shot 4 people outside in the parking lot, killing 3. He entered the store and shot eight more, killing six. He posted a 180 page manifesto explaining why he traveled 3.5 hours from his home in Conklin, NY to the most predominantly black areas he could find, according to census data. The manifesto voiced support for the “Great Replacement Theory” in the context of white genocide.
His main concern was mass migration into the United States, citing the white national, far-right Great Replacement Theory of Renaud Camus, which claims that whites are being subject by elites to genocide through immigration and decreasing white birth rates. It also cites Jews and elites as responsible for transgender inclusivity and non-white immigration, that black people disproportionately kill white people, and that non-whites would overwhelm and wipe out the white race.
So, where does that leave him on the political spectrum?
Well, Bikki, on this very board, has stated that the Great Replacement Theory isn’t a theory. He’s enlisted his full support of this theory, as well as the notion that black people are preconditioned for violence. Sounds quite similar, eh? Do others? Well, Tucker Carlson has endorsed the Great Replacement Theory on his show more than 400 times since 2021. How ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ Fuels Extremism and Fear - The New York Times
The overall GOP?
7 in 10 Republicans believe in it
Current candidates with Trump endorsements?
J.D. Vance, the Republican nominee for Senate in Ohio, told Fox News that Democrats “have decided that they can’t win reelection in 2022 unless they bring in a large number of new voters to replace the voters that are already here.”
In Arizona, GOP Senate candidate Blake Masters said Democrats wanted to increase immigration “to change the demographics of our country.” Missouri’s Republican state Attorney General Eric Schmitt, who is running for Senate, also accused Democrats of “fundamentally trying to change the country” through immigration.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/02/politics/blake-masters-donald-trump-arizona-senate/index.html
75% of all political violence since 1993 has been by right wing extremists. You folks attacked the capitol. You folks support domestic terrorists like the Proud Boys. Hell, the very words used in the Buffalo manifesto are used on this board by your cohorts.
Is every MAGA supporter a terrorist? Of course not, but it doesn’t appear a single one of you has any problem with them in any way. You don’t even change your narrative when it’s the fundamental reasoning for murders. None of you condemn shit…you just deflect blame and say Antifa, Antifa, Antifa!, or that black people were worse. Never responsibility, even for continuing to mainstream white supremacist rhetoric.
Hell, 1 in 3 of you support political violence
But, what do we get from you? Deflection, lies, “was he at a rally?”
Let’s look at the examples you used.
You use a protest at the Capitol where one Trump supporter was killed. That’s not a mass shooting.
You talk about the proud boys. What mass shooting have they committed?
I’ll even throw you a bone with the Buffalo mass shooter and let you call him a MAGA guy.
Again, I hate all mass shooters. We have a problem with mental health and deranged individuals in this country. The vast vast vast majority of right wing folks are not shooting up anything.
Don’t use an extreme minority to try to make a point. Have you taken a statistics class?
I never said mass shooting. I said right wing violence. We have video, testimony, guilty pleas, and ample court evidence of right wing violence at the capitol, along with open statements from the people there about how they wanted to physically attack members of Congress and to murder the VP.
Again, didn’t say mass shooting. I said right wing violence. You’re changing words…another nod towards the question about your integrity. If you want a list of violence committed by the Proud Boys, it only takes about 10 seconds on a search engine. There is ample.
His views appear to be in line, as I’ve displayed above. You don’t get to “let” me do anything. It is. I provided evidence. You haven’t disputed said evidence.
But, not the people who commit right wing violence, obviously. You’ve shown that quite clearly in your defenses
Considering the amount of right wingers who still believe Trump is President, the election was stolen, in Qanon, or that violence is necessary for politics…it appears the large majority of your party has mental health problems and derangement. Would you like to visit the statistics?
I have, 2. I double majored in Finance and Accounting for 4 years before changing. Again, however, statistical evidence shows the majority of your party is engaged in said derangement. Again, 7-10 Republicans state publicly they believe in it. 1 in 3 believe political violence necessary. Nearly every GOPer in Congress voted against certifying the election over outright lies.
The data doesn’t line up with you very well, maybe that’s why you tried to insert "mass shooting.’ Integrity is free, bud. Just takes a bit of effort
You don’t get to change the argument to try to make a point. This thread is about the tragedy of mass shootings.
I haven’t commented on political violence, don’t condone any of it on either side and don’t agree with your broad generalizations that are not backed up in fact.
You my friend, are consistently the one that lack integrity in your arguments on here.
King of projection.
Please post the source of these statistics and then I’ll comment on them. Thanks
First off, I started the thread. Secondly, at no point did I make this about mass shootings, OR, mass “shoutings.”
The first moment “mass shooters” were worded was by DJ on July 5, 21 posts into the subject. Those words were not mentioned again until this morning, by you, 46 posts into the subject.
Nice attempt at deflection, though.
Seems weird. You’ve consistently defended or deflected on Jan 6, 100% of the time.
Doesn’t appear so.
Here, for your consistent diatribe about this bullshit too. I’ll spoon feed you a little more
Would you like some Grey Poupon as well? Some crackers? What else can I provide for you since your search engines aren’t working, apparently. Boy, if anyone ever said you had to be spoonfed your information, they must be patting themselves on the back for that assessment, huh?
So mr statistics guy says 1/3 is a majority now.
And your other statistics are related to opinions on some theories or opinions on the election. None of those relate to right wing violence. Nice try in categorizing the GOP party as racists and threats to Democracy.
Not some of your stronger work.
You are becoming a little more unhinged lately and less sound in arguments. Ignoring some points and making idiotic arguments in others.
I’d expect a little better. This thread isn’t a good look for you.
You’re dishonest.
Really? was this about the election?
Is this a White Nationalist trope used in several mass shootings so far?
Again, you’re dishonest. Each time you post, you show more and more how dishonest you are.
Project much? It’s clear for everyone on here to see.
Um…is it that you’re mentally handicapped? Each point you’ve made has been summarily dismissed.Time and time again you GOPers show you’re lack of basic integrity, no concern for outright lying with it right on the screen in front of you for all to see, no shame whatsoever. You, personally, have shown you are simply a liar. You make false statements with proof against those statements right on the screen in front of you. Are you of the mindset that nobody can see the things on the screen that we post?
You lied today, over and over and over again. It’s as clear as day. Never once manned up. If that isn’t an indictment on who you are as a person, I don’t know what is.
To quote the legend, “It ain’t me babe.”
Not that I disagree with you or that this isn’t about a mass shooter, but that wasn’t me.
This is all just a bunch of bluster, per usual.
You are trying to use some stats on random surveys on random topics to show that the majority of GOP are racists, traitors, in-American or whatever label you have. None of those stats show anything relating to your point. Which shows you are a total moron and don’t know how to use stats to prove a point.
It’s disingenuous and blatantly false. But you will keep beating that drumb.
The good news is that DJ is the only one on here that agrees with you on that point. And he’s a die hard lefty.
And the majority of Americans are decent people that just want the extremists to go away. It’s sad that you are an extremist.
But if you feel that way about the US, Prague is calling you. I’m sure you will be missed here.
This is how an argument goes with Warden-
Me- Its ridiculous to point to a side to ascribe mass shootings to them. We shouldn’t cheerlead on who is doing these shootings since it runs the spectrum and these people are crazy
Warden- the majority of political violence comes from the right.
Me- I’m not talking about political violence, just mass shooters. And you are categorizing all GOP’s as radical
Warden- well they are, look at these surveys on their opinions on replacement theory and the legitimacy of election, that must mean they are violent extremists
Me- that is a non-sequitur and not relevant to my point. You are making broad generalizations.
Warden- you lie and have no integrity as a person.
Complete idiot
Until you rid this country of trumpism, you are. And I don’t think y’all have the balls enough to do it.
When I talk about Replacement Theory, I have never broached the subject of race. My premise is that the Democrats are attempting to import a voting constituency to overwhelm or replace the conservative majority in America. This is exactly what the Obama/Biden strategy is all about. Turn Texas blue, and Republicans cannot win. Same is true of Florida. Far and away, the greatest threat to America’s well being is unfettered immigration. It must be stopped or America will be turned into a Third World Hell Hole.
Immigration is what will allow us to compete with China’s population in the long term.